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🇺🇸Hank Strange🦅WMMF Ep 894 : Constitutional Carry with Matthew Kilgo Attorney For US Law Shield and Luis Valdes Gun Owners of America Florida Director.
On this episode of Who Moved My Freedom I am joined by Criminal Defense Attorney Matthew Kilgo, of The Law Offices of Matthew W. Kilgo, LLC / Georgia Gun Lawyers. He is also the Author of the book Georgia Gun Law a must own book for Firearm Owners that explains all of the Georgia state firearms laws.
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Also, joining us is Luis Valdes GOA Florida State Director. Tonight we are discussing Constitutional Carry vs “permitless carry” and what it all means.Â
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)…
All right. So my words of wisdom for you. Come from Theodore Roosevelt, my favorite president. Far better it is to dare mighty things to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much because they live in gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
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Below is our Full WMMF Podcast Transcript of Episode 894 with Lawyer Matt Kilgo and GOA FL Director Luis Valdes
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Hank Strange (Host)
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00:01:00:27 – 00:01:01:23
Hank Strange (Host)
Let’s do this.
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Announcer
Welcome back to the Hank
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Announcer
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00:01:36:08 – 00:02:01:23
Hank Strange (Host)
All right. Let’s see. We are live here let me throw my guests in here. First thing that we do, gentlemen, we do jazz hands. It doesn’t matter how macho you are. We’re taking it back from the communists. There you go. Jazz hands. We are alive. I hope you guys have your big girl panties on. This is episode 894 of the Who Move My Freedom Podcast and tonight my guests are Matthew Kilgo that I say that right.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You got it right.
00:02:03:07 – 00:02:07:27
Hank Strange (Host)
There you go. Matt Kilgo you’re an independent attorney for U.S. Law Shield.
00:02:08:22 – 00:02:10:27
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
That’s correct. I’m the Georgia program attorney.
00:02:11:09 – 00:02:34:04
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. Welcome to the show for the first time. Happy to have supported him. Yes. And you know, just so everyone knows out there, you know, we we are we do have you us law shield. We definitely have that here. Also joining us is my friend Luis Valdes, right, state director for Florida for GOA
00:02:36:03 – 00:02:38:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It’s a pleasure to be back on the air. Thank you.
00:02:38:11 – 00:03:01:00
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. Welcome back. You know, it’s going to be a fun show tonight. It’s Wednesday and and we’re having fun here. We’re here. You guys are here. If you all have questions, let us know. We will try to answer questions and all that kind of stuff here on the top for the first 20 minutes, I’m going to welcome everyone. So, you know, we’ve had Louis here before, so I am going to start with Matt.
00:03:01:00 – 00:03:11:29
Hank Strange (Host)
We’ll go to Matt. Welcome to the show. Matt, you want to tell the folks a little bit about you out there since you’ve never been on the show, who are you? How did you come to work? The work with US, Law Shield, etc.?
00:03:12:16 – 00:03:40:12
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Sure. I’m five foot ten. I love puppies. Rainy days inside. I know. I’m a lawyer in Atlanta, Georgia. Marietta, Georgia. Been lawyer for 23 years, started working as an independent program attorney for U.S. Law Shield. About eight years ago. Georgia was one of the first few states where U.S. Law Shield offered memberships outside of Texas and I’ve been with them since about a year before they started here.
00:03:40:22 – 00:04:03:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
We now have 15,000 members in Georgia, and I think U.S. law shields about 800,000 nationwide. So I have an attorney client relationship with each one of those members, and you and I were discussing off camera a little earlier, you can’t fly from someplace like Tallahassee to Orlando without connecting through the La Toya Jackson Intergalactic Space Port. Right. You know, Hartsfield Jackson here in Atlanta right now.
00:04:03:27 – 00:04:19:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I help all of you law shields members when they’re in Georgia. Okay. So I’m I work with them, not for them, but we do a lot to protect people’s Second Amendment rights here. And if they have to protect themselves, then I’m the hired gun that comes in to assist.
00:04:20:02 – 00:04:25:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Much appreciated. That is the one time you will you will love a lawyer, right, Lewis? You know.
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Announcer
I mean.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I’m sure. Yeah, just about yeah.
00:04:28:04 – 00:04:49:29
Hank Strange (Host)
We already we were already treated to some lawyer jokes behind the scenes here before we even got going. Lewis, what’s up, man? Obviously, you’ve been on here many times. What’s going on in the state of Florida? That’s usually, you know, while we have you on here, keep us up with what’s going on up in Tallahassee. Any news?
00:04:51:15 – 00:05:01:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I got some news. Hold on one second here. Let me share my screen I can figure out how to do this. Nope. Won’t let me share. Okay. So I’ll send you the image to. Sure.
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Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. What is.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But don’t worry, I’ll send it to you. But so today yesterday started our first special session. The governor called it for redistricting, and he just expanded it to remove Disney of its special privileges as being a political subdivision of the state. As if for folks I don’t know the 1967 the Florida legislature gave Disney the right to be its own city.
00:05:29:14 – 00:05:37:22
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Basically they’re the really Creek Improvement District so they could file they could tax people they could form their own police department. They could do all that.
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Announcer
Yeah.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Well, in Florida, every political subdivision is subservient to the state. And the legislature can basically say you don’t exist anymore. So right now that’s going on. And on top of that, Governor DeSantis has called another special session in May to cover insurance reform. And if you remember back at the end of March, he gave a speech that said he would you would have loved to have redistricting, insurance, regulation, data privacy and constitutional, carry.
00:06:10:24 – 00:06:13:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So it looks like the governor is going down his list right now.
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Announcer
Okay.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Those priorities and calling special sessions. He gave enough rope to the legislature and apparently they hung themselves on it.
00:06:22:02 – 00:06:29:08
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. I mean, it’s a it’s a good thing. You know, I’m I can’t wait for the day when we have to stop being jealous of Georgia.
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Announcer
You know.
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Hank Strange (Host)
Of them having a whole bunch of other states. Is it what is it like, 20? Is it 20?
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
20, 25? Georgia was the 25th to another 25.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
25.
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Announcer
Yeah.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Alabama and Ohio hit just before Georgia. But Alabama’s doesn’t go into effect until January 1st. And Georgia’s.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Don’t forget, Indiana.
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Announcer
Oh.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yeah. And Indiana, but Georgia’s when in fact immediately upon signing I said Ohio. I think I may have met Indy. And I think you got me.
00:07:00:24 – 00:07:01:20
Hank Strange (Host)
There, Lewis. Okay.
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Announcer
Oh, so Ohio, it was.
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Hank Strange (Host)
Ohio does not have constitutional. Carrie or do they.
00:07:07:25 – 00:07:13:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Know Ohio does? It was Ohio, Indiana, Alabama. Then Georgia.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Then Georgia.
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Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Yeah.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And Nebraska is on the verge of getting it, too.
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Announcer
Yeah.
00:07:21:24 – 00:07:43:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You know what’s what I find so interesting about it, especially in this day and this time, the backdrop of, you know, the Ukraine that had had single handedly stripped their populace of the ability to carry and now we’re sending guns to them to protect themselves. I think it says a lot. And Lewis I’m sure you would agree with me on this.
00:07:43:25 – 00:07:57:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It says a lot about the tenor of this country, about how we really feel about self-protection coming out of the pandemic. We know we have to be self-reliant and being self-reliant means being able to carry and to protect yourself and your family at all times.
00:07:58:25 – 00:08:05:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Of course, as New York just proved with the terrorist attack on the subway there.
00:08:06:03 – 00:08:06:13
Announcer
Yeah.
00:08:06:27 – 00:08:30:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
New York’s defense. New York’s entire argument in New York State Rifle Pistols, Station de Bruin was, oh, the police will protect you. Too much of a crowd can’t be trusted to carry firearms, yada yada, yada, yada, yada. And the New York solicitor general, she even went so far as to specifically list subways as a gun free zone and said, well, we can’t have people armed on the subways.
00:08:30:24 – 00:08:52:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
God forbid you know, it’s a safe space because we have law enforcement there. And you had the New York City mayor literally increased law enforcement on the subways. And guess what? It didn’t do anything. And I know this from personal experience and 15 years in law enforcement, law enforcement isn’t proactive. Nine out of ten times we’re reactionary. We show up after the fact.
00:08:52:13 – 00:08:57:16
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We take a report, and then we hunt down the perpetrator. We see you are your own first count.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Police are only moments away right.
00:09:00:23 – 00:09:27:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
1 seconds count. Cops are minutes to an hour away. That’s the truth. We’ve seen that multiple times. We saw it in New York just recently. We saw it sadly in Parkland. We’ve seen it Columbine. You know, I can go through the list of every location, every mass shooting of every terrorist attack. Where the criminal element was easily on scene by at least 30 minutes before law enforcement showed up.
00:09:27:09 – 00:09:59:01
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And the only people that could have fought back and stopped it were an armed, law abiding public citizen. And we could even go across the globe. We could look at Kenya with the the Westgate Mall shooting where you had terrorist elements, go into the mall, kill a bunch of people. And both the Kenyan police and the Kenyan military staged outside and who went inside to save lives were the few licensed people in Kenya to carry firearms.
00:09:59:01 – 00:10:12:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They were most of them were IPsec and Competition Shoes. They grab their, you know, the ever classic a shooting vest, and they ran inside while the cops and the military were standing outside staging. And they save lives.
00:10:13:06 – 00:10:14:23
Hank Strange (Host)
Mm hmm. Yeah. Go ahead, Matt.
00:10:15:13 – 00:10:31:06
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, what I was going to say is it’s interesting to me, especially when it comes to New York, and we’re going to hear a lot more from the New York rifle and New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, because, you know, this is they call it the October term of the Supreme Court. They rendered their decisions by June so that’s coming.
00:10:31:18 – 00:10:59:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I think I don’t think that what happened in New York last week will have any effect on it. I think that decision has been made. But you know, I was a child of the eighties. I know who Bernie gets is. Yeah, me, too. The man who defended himself. And what’s interesting to me is of all those folks who was what, 16 folks who were who shot and injured on the on the subway last week, none of them have been asked, at least to my knowledge, I haven’t seen anything about what they’re preference would have been.
00:10:59:22 – 00:11:15:14
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Would you do you would you prefer to have been able to take care of yourself in that moment? Absolutely. I think there’s been not enough done to really get to the effect that it’s had on these victims, because I think they know what it’s going to mean is that they want the ability to protect themselves.
00:11:15:24 – 00:11:30:04
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, I remember I grew up in New York City, so I grew up in Far Rockaway in New York, and I graduated high school in 88. When was when I was born? I guess it’s like was it 87? 88 or something like that? 86, I.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Think it was like 82 83.
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Hank Strange (Host)
Or before that.
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Announcer
Mhm.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah. Yeah, it was before that. And I distinctly remember that case where Yeah.
00:11:41:19 – 00:11:44:19
Announcer
I’m saying look you know.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He was threatened with a screwdriver and they found sharpened screwdrivers on the suspects.
00:11:49:07 – 00:11:51:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It was like three, three guys that he shot I think.
00:11:53:04 – 00:11:58:25
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Three or four guys. I remember the case well and he was a victim previously of a mugging.
00:12:00:07 – 00:12:01:00
Hank Strange (Host)
I think it was like.
00:12:01:06 – 00:12:01:21
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I remember.
00:12:01:21 – 00:12:04:15
Hank Strange (Host)
In 84, 1984 from what I see.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I remember the New York Guardian Angels. They supported Bernie Guts.
00:12:09:09 – 00:12:09:24
Announcer
Yeah.
00:12:10:05 – 00:12:28:05
Hank Strange (Host)
So I can tell you 1984 I went into high school and I remember this right, I was a black teenager in 1984 living in New York City. You know whose side I was on. Like just what you said, Matt. You know, they didn’t ask people what they think about it. And I specifically remember in New York City as a black teenager ah living there.
00:12:28:05 – 00:12:55:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Right. Not thinking the way I do now is a, is a 50 year old but I think 1984 I would say, you know I was in my very early teens, I remember thinking good for that guy that he defended himself because I’ve been through the same at already that age in New York City, I’ve already been through the same things that that guy was going through, you know, and I remember thinking how come we all can’t defend ourselves?
00:12:55:20 – 00:13:04:29
Hank Strange (Host)
And I think ultimately you know, you’re the lawyer here. So I think ultimately he got off of the charges except the weapons charges. Right.
00:13:06:24 – 00:13:29:06
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I know that they initially charged him with attempted murder. The grand jury refused to indict him on that except for the weapons possession charges. I’d have to go back and look at Wikipedia. I think he ultimately was guilty of one count of carrying an unlicensed firearm. Right. But he was vilified in the press. How dare you protect yourself?
00:13:29:06 – 00:13:56:06
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
How dare you, you know, accosted these young kids who had screwdrivers and wanted to take something done by who do you think you are? And now he is every man, you know. 25 states, half of the United States have said, you know, he is every man. He is the the man, the woman, the person, black, white, red, green, tall, short, who can and must take personal responsibility for their own safety.
00:13:56:06 – 00:13:57:29
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And security and the safety to secure their family.
00:13:58:09 – 00:14:19:07
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. You know, I think one of the things is, is if people in New York City, let’s say, think that the citizens can the citizens of New York City or residents, however you want to put it in New York City, cannot defend themselves, are they going to get one police officer for every reason? It I mean, how are you going to do that?
00:14:19:20 – 00:14:20:00
Hank Strange (Host)
Right.
00:14:20:00 – 00:14:22:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Isn’t that at least not as they’re trying to defund police.
00:14:23:17 – 00:14:30:29
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And and even then as the Supreme Court has stated, police do not have a specific role in protecting the individual citizen.
00:14:31:22 – 00:14:55:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s absolutely right. Yes, right. Yeah. You guys will get a kick out of this. I live in Kennesaw, Georgia. Kennesaw. You may have heard, is famous for its city ordinance that requires the head of household to possess a firearm. And we moved there about two years ago from another small town, just, you know, just west of Kennesaw. And I, I tried to convince my wife at the time that the ordinance said it had to buy a new firearm.
00:14:56:10 – 00:14:59:00
Announcer
But it was past the point. Yeah.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s like, no, idiot. I know that’s not what that says. And it’s unenforced of.
00:15:04:07 – 00:15:04:15
Announcer
All.
00:15:05:03 – 00:15:09:03
Hank Strange (Host)
It has to be this $10,000 in 18. 11, that’s required by law.
00:15:09:10 – 00:15:09:24
Announcer
That’s right.
00:15:10:09 – 00:15:13:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Oh, I’m pretty sure the father just the condo. 20, 11.
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Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They say we have to get a second mortgage so we could get this H.K. 23 belt fed. Come on.
00:15:22:14 – 00:15:25:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
What is the technical and why did it just show up at the house.
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Announcer
Right.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Don’t worry about the bunker. It’s okay.
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Announcer
It’s okay. Yeah.
00:15:30:07 – 00:15:52:25
Hank Strange (Host)
It’s a this is a, this is such a, this is such a crazy crazy idea that’s happening in America. Whenever I talk to people when when these shootings happen when these incidents happen right. People that I speak to don’t go, oh, though, that’s it. I definitely don’t want to have a gun. They want to know how they can have a gun to defend themselves in that moment.
00:15:53:03 – 00:16:16:17
Hank Strange (Host)
Because tell me what instance something like this happened. And there was a police officer there. I’m not saying that it has it, but you know, it’s not very common that something goes down and there is a police officer there in the in that moment, including a place like New York City that I think has the most cops per capita when compared to the people who live there.
00:16:17:14 – 00:16:18:01
Announcer
Well, you.
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Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Never see the headline bad guy acts out. Police officer does job, right? Yes.
00:16:24:13 – 00:16:29:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You and you have a better chance of winning the lotto than a cop being there.
00:16:29:25 – 00:16:31:18
Announcer
And go, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:32:03 – 00:16:54:17
Hank Strange (Host)
So, I mean, you know, we’re kind of like preaching to the choir here with that one, but. Oh, I don’t I don’t know, man. It’s you know, it’s just one of these things I know what everyone’s paying attention to is the whole, you know, what the media dubbed the don’t say gay bill you know, which doesn’t have any kind of words like that in it.
00:16:55:00 – 00:17:14:23
Hank Strange (Host)
I was I got my haircut today. I was talking to my barber, you know, and he was he asked me, he was like, what is that about? I said, basically, it’s a bill that you cannot the teachers cannot talk to kindergartners. I was, I think, up to third or fourth grade. I think maybe it’s from kindergarten to third grade.
00:17:15:16 – 00:17:16:04
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Third grade.
00:17:16:16 – 00:17:20:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. You can’t talk to them about sex. And he is like, yeah, of course.
00:17:20:16 – 00:17:23:01
Announcer
You can’t walk.
00:17:23:09 – 00:17:50:16
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, he’s like, well, I don’t want anyone talking to my to my you know, he’s got a younger daughter. He’s like, I don’t want anyone talking to my daughter about sex. Not teacher or anyone. So why, you know, why is that a problem? Why are people mad about that? Because this is the world we’re living in, man, where Disney like we were talking about, Disney is literally mad that the teachers can’t talk to your kids about sex at what’s kindergarten, four years old or something.
00:17:50:22 – 00:17:51:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Five years old.
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Announcer
Hey, five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five, yeah.
00:17:55:26 – 00:18:15:18
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, so that’s where we are now. If I’m with all of that stuff, I’m with the law, all of that. But it becomes kind of a distraction to the more important thing to me, you know, getting constitutional. Carrie, here in the state of Florida and pulling back some you know, Florida used to be called a gunshot state.
00:18:17:03 – 00:18:19:03
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, now Georgia is making us look bad.
00:18:20:08 – 00:18:23:23
Announcer
Yeah. So we actually look at that.
00:18:23:23 – 00:18:25:25
Hank Strange (Host)
Face right now. Look at this face right here.
00:18:26:10 – 00:18:31:09
Announcer
Yeah. It’s like I never had anything to do with it. Yeah.
00:18:31:09 – 00:18:49:02
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Just the guy who’s happy that it’s expanding his business. I will tell you that some of the things they’ve done lately, it’s taken it’s taking money out of the pot. Because, you know, you don’t have to go to probate court anymore to get a weapons carry license in Georgia. If you have a weapons carry license, you’re a lawful weapons carrier.
00:18:49:11 – 00:19:13:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
If you don’t. But you could have one because you’re eligible. You’re a lawful weapons carrier. When you guys travel up from Florida with or without a Florida license, if you got a Florida license, your lawful weapons carrier, if you could get a license if you lived in Georgia because you’re eligible, you’re right. They have made they’ve gone to great extents to ensure that anyone who’s lawfully able to possess can do so.
00:19:14:05 – 00:19:43:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
But one of the biggest distinctions that has to be made about a kind of law like this is that it doesn’t grant a right for anyone who can’t possess a firearm legally. And that’s a big misconception about constitutional right now. Everyone can carry no, it doesn’t say that felons, misdemeanor crime or domestic violence, you know, miscreants, anyone who’s a juvenile, you it doesn’t grant any greater access to firearms.
00:19:43:29 – 00:20:02:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It grants greater freedom to individuals who can legally possess firearms. Arms. It’s no magic bullet. They took about a dozen statutes and pulled out all the restrictions on weapons carry. And what’s left is permit loss carry if you are eligible lawfully to possess.
00:20:02:26 – 00:20:15:11
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Very good. Very good. Yeah. You know, we’ve got like a minute and a half here Louis. What’s up with Florida, man? I put this all on your shoulders, Lewis. You got to.
00:20:15:12 – 00:20:16:07
Announcer
Carry us.
00:20:16:20 – 00:20:19:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Across the line. I know you can’t do it on your own.
00:20:19:21 – 00:20:22:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Everyone, I. I texted you a photo. Can you pull.
00:20:22:09 – 00:20:31:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Will? Yeah, absolutely. Hold on. I’ll pull it up right now. Let’s see. All right. And like I said, we’ve got about a minute here. Go for it.
00:20:32:12 – 00:20:54:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So today, we just did another constitutional carry rally at the Capitol, and our good friends and allies from Big Daddy and Limited and from other organizations across the state, they contributed and helped. And as you see there, we are still sending the message. I was planning to be there today, but I had a family emergency I had to take care of.
00:20:54:10 – 00:21:17:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So sadly, I couldn’t be at the Capitol live talking about that because that was my plan today. But as you see, Floridians from all across the state showed up to the Capitol and they still said we want constitutional carry. The governor says he wants constitutional carry on his desk. The only people that don’t want it is the legislative leadership and a couple of members of the House and Senate.
00:21:18:00 – 00:21:32:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
If you just saw Representative David Smith, he flat out said and he’s a Republican, mind you, that he’s against open carry unconstitutional carry because a foreign force, even though foreign tourist only make up 3.7% of our total amount of force.
00:21:32:14 – 00:21:51:26
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. Listen, we’re taking a break. We’re coming right back. Walter Arms has been making concealed carry handguns for over 90 years, starting with the PPK today. Walther is based in the good old U.S. Navy and still build quality firearms like the PCU and PDP for personal defense and competition. So when you’re in the market, please consider Walter Arms.
00:21:51:26 – 00:22:09:09
Hank Strange (Host)
We wouldn’t be able to keep the Who move my Freedom podcast going without the support of great companies like Walter Arms. All right. We are back here and took a little break there. Let me see. Make sure Louis C Mat came with his own little name.
00:22:10:07 – 00:22:10:17
Announcer
I don’t know.
00:22:10:17 – 00:22:11:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
How to do any of that.
00:22:11:24 – 00:22:14:02
Announcer
That’s about his office.
00:22:14:03 – 00:22:17:05
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
He gets better than that. If I may, I am.
00:22:19:09 – 00:22:23:26
Announcer
That’s me, man. He’s just. He’s just got all kinds of technology.
00:22:24:01 – 00:22:25:28
Hank Strange (Host)
He’s got one in the upper corner.
00:22:26:14 – 00:22:28:13
Announcer
Two down there. I mean, serious.
00:22:28:14 – 00:22:35:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Monkey see button, monkey push button. And then I think I’m also supposed to tell you if you go to this website.
00:22:35:16 – 00:22:36:18
Announcer
Right? Okay.
00:22:36:18 – 00:22:47:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And you can sign up for a gun law seminar through US law. Show us law suits. Huge in Florida, like 100,000 members. There is like 15,000 members here in Georgia.
00:22:47:10 – 00:23:06:09
Hank Strange (Host)
So yeah, absolutely. We would encourage folks to sign up, probably whoever’s listening to this podcast on audio heard a message from me about US law shield. So I’m sure Lola’s going to put a link in here that you guys could go through if you want to sign up for US Law Shield and at the same time help support us.
00:23:06:09 – 00:23:18:17
Hank Strange (Host)
You can do that. Lola actually has a question she says can explain one what this permit lists carry me to Georgia. Weapons carry license versus permit. Less scary.
00:23:19:11 – 00:23:42:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yes. So I actually have a bit of a pet peeve about calling it permit was carry. We have licenses and Lewis will know a lot about this to some states are may issue states and they usually have permits some states are shall issue states meaning we can give you the May issue. Well you got to show us a reason that you need a permit.
00:23:42:03 – 00:24:08:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
That’s like Maryland, right? Or New York. Yeah. Georgia is a shall issue. If you qualify, the state must give you that license. So a permit is regulatory permissive. A license is your right. So we have weapons carry license in Georgia. The new law says it’s fine to have a weapons carry license. And I actually would advocate to continue to renew your license for a lot of different reasons.
00:24:10:00 – 00:24:32:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You know, NICS checks and airport issues, school zone issues, recipe city. We have reciprocity with 32 states. I can travel to other states like Florida right now. I can go down to Florida. I don’t have constitutional carry Florida yet, but I have a Georgia license that’s recognized there. So very important. So the license allows us to do a lot of things.
00:24:32:15 – 00:24:59:04
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
What permit loss, carry says, is that you don’t need the license anymore to do the same things in Georgia. The reason I say it’s important to maintain the license is when I go to a state that isn’t permit Liz carry like South Carolina, I’m going to need my weapons carry license. So there’s no difference in how you can carry you can carry openly concealed, loaded, unloaded it.
00:24:59:10 – 00:25:01:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Don’t shoot if it ain’t loaded, folks.
00:25:01:22 – 00:25:03:23
Announcer
Anywhere, right?
00:25:04:05 – 00:25:23:12
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Anywhere. In your vehicle, openly concealed. And Georgia, unlike a lot of states, has no duty to disclose. So if you’re stopped by a law enforcement officer, you don’t have to disclose the presence of a firearm. A police officer cannot detain you if they see you carrying one simply to determine if you’re lawfully here. That doesn’t mean they can’t question you.
00:25:23:19 – 00:25:50:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
We get into this the lawyer’s semantics of what is detain, what is question. Then we get into Terry frisks and all kinds of crazy Fourth Amendment stuff. But permanent loss. carry basically says if you’re lawful to possess that firearm and you’re over the age of 21, you got to be eligible for the license and you’re okay to carry a lot of the questions I’ve been getting because in Georgia you can’t well, federally you can purchase a handgun in a private sale.
00:25:50:29 – 00:26:18:07
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, I say that you can possess a handgun in a private at the age of 18. You can’t purchase from 15 to 21 in Georgia. You can purchase through a private sale at the age of 18, but you can’t get a weapons carry license until you’re 21 unless prior or active military with training. And other states like Virginia, for instance, won’t recognize a Georgia license list issued to anyone under the age of 21.
00:26:18:22 – 00:26:23:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So a lot of the questions I’ve been answering lately are from 19 year olds who say hey I can carry to where I want.
00:26:23:28 – 00:26:24:18
Announcer
No.
00:26:25:00 – 00:26:28:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You can’t because you can’t be a lawful weapons carrier because you can’t get the license.
00:26:28:22 – 00:26:29:02
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay.
00:26:29:17 – 00:26:29:28
Announcer
Okay.
00:26:30:04 – 00:26:31:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Too much info. I know.
00:26:31:07 – 00:26:51:19
Hank Strange (Host)
No, I know there’s some good stuff in there. If you guys have anything, you can definitely ask us. Armament and ask Access says reciprocity is why I will renew my CCW. Are you then in Florida, Lewis? You know, do you have to notify a police officer that you’re a carrier? Do you have a D?
00:26:51:19 – 00:27:19:21
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Florida does not have a notice. Florida does not have a notify statute. And I say this from personal experience as a law enforcement officer. My knowledge sometimes when an individual informed me that they were carrying a concealed carry permit holder, that actually made the stop a lot more comfortable. That would just be like, okay, you’re not breaking law because that’s just statistically speaking, your average permitted carry holder follows the law.
00:27:20:00 – 00:27:49:03
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, it’s so it actually lowered my guard as a cop. But sadly, in Florida, unlike Georgia, you cannot be 19 years old, you cannot be 18 years old. And legally purchase a firearm. Now here’s a screwed up thing. It’s 21 or over because of our illustrious Republicans in the legislature after Parkland they passed that gun control law and it was written by now current Senate President Wilton Simpson, who’s running for Commissioner of Agriculture.
00:27:49:19 – 00:28:12:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He’s also the dirtbag that wrote the red flag laws. So he’s running for the very office that runs and maintains the complete list of who could carry a firearm in Florida. So that’s just a wonderful idea. But just like Georgia, Florida will issue a concealed carry permit to anyone under the age of 21 if they have military service.
00:28:12:05 – 00:28:24:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So if they’re currently in the military or if they have an honorable discharge and they present a duty to 14, they can qualify to get a CCW but they can’t legally purchased a firearm in Florida. How screwed up is that?
00:28:24:26 – 00:28:45:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, so that was a little. So I notice that Matt said that you can’t buy from a gun store in Georgia until you’re 21. But before and for handguns. For handguns. So before in Florida you could buy a handgun right? You just couldn’t have a concealed carry permit. But now you have to be 21 also.
00:28:46:15 – 00:28:47:04
Announcer
Yeah. If you.
00:28:47:04 – 00:28:49:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Can’t buy any guns I think in Florida if you’re under 20.
00:28:49:21 – 00:29:13:17
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So in Florida, prior to the Parkland bill, if you were under the age of 21, you can legally purchase a long gun at any FFL, any dealer or distributor so you can walk into a Walmart Avast pro, your local gun shop, whatever, and you can legally purchase a long gun if you are 18 or older and you can legally purchase a handgun through private purchase if you were under the age of 21.
00:29:15:10 – 00:29:36:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But now you cannot legally purchase either if you’re under the age of 21 because of the Parkland gun control bill. But again, if you’re under the age of 21 and you’re a military service member or honorably discharged veteran you can get, you can apply and get a concealed carry permit, but you can’t legally purchase the gun period.
00:29:38:06 – 00:29:40:18
Announcer
Okay, okay. So you really.
00:29:40:25 – 00:29:41:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
They’ve really jacked that.
00:29:41:22 – 00:29:43:07
Announcer
Up. Yeah, that’s yeah.
00:29:43:12 – 00:30:20:25
Hank Strange (Host)
It was worse than I thought and a lot of this gets confusing and I want to bring up a point here, but let me say let me make this comment from 40 to chilled. He says CCW should be free. It’s already our right you know a lot of people in the gun community say yeah the Second Amendment that’s my that’s my permit how is this gotten so complicated man even a state like Georgia and Florida very close you know why is this gotten so complicated around the country you know, I mean, I know it’s probably not an easy answer, but how do they have it?
00:30:21:14 – 00:30:22:16
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Basically, the answer is.
00:30:22:16 – 00:30:23:26
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Almost 250 years old.
00:30:25:11 – 00:31:01:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I’m so it’s an easy answer for me in Florida. It’s because it’s one of the holdovers of Jim Crow bigotry. Florida’s entire gun control series of laws could stem their history back to 1893 after Southern Democrats regain control at the end of reconstruction and and created the black codes specifically to disarm and oppress freed black Floridians. Now on paper, the law was written to be applied across the board and in 1893 it will going back to 1885.
00:31:01:18 – 00:31:30:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
That’s when they gained control. And then they rewrote the state constitution to where it says you have the right to keep and bear arms blah blah blah free state comma. But the legislature has the right to regulate the method of carry. Mm hmm. And they wrote that first one. They adopted the then new state constitution, and then they wrote a bunch of gun control laws that said you had to get a permit issued from your county commissioner if you wanted to own a firearm, then you had to get one from the sheriff if you wanted to carry a firearm, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:31:13 – 00:32:04:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And on paper, those laws were to be applied across the board. In reality, those laws were used to strip free blacks of any viable means of self-defense. And if you go to the 1941 state Supreme Court case, you’re in Florida of Locks and Vittone and I don’t make his name up. This is literally the the justices named Chief Justice Buford he said and I’m paraphrasing because it’s a longer statement, but he basically said, oh, I know of this law and this law was passed to disarm blacks.
00:32:04:00 – 00:32:27:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We never intended to enforce it against the white population. The majority of the white population in Florida has never been questioned. Even if they have a permit to own, let alone to carry. Mm hmm. And mind you, the defendant in this case, Watson, he was a white guy. That’s why it went to the state Supreme Court, because he was saying, well, I’m a white guy.
00:32:27:28 – 00:32:28:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Why are you enforcing.
00:32:28:24 – 00:32:29:18
Announcer
This against me?
00:32:29:22 – 00:32:37:00
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. That’s the ironic thing I want to bring up. You know, sometimes in life we allow things because it’s not happening to us.
00:32:37:14 – 00:32:37:29
Announcer
You know.
00:32:38:08 – 00:32:52:26
Hank Strange (Host)
Like, oh, that’s I’m a I’m a dude that’s happening to women. You know, I’m black. That’s happening to white people, you know, or you’re white. That’s happening. So and you think, oh, okay, that doesn’t know everything’s going to affect everyone. Anything, you know, allowed to become a law is going to affect everyone.
00:32:53:19 – 00:33:19:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Well, in Florida, it gets even worse. So in 1968, with the rise of the civil rights movement, you had the, the birth of the, the reformed new Southern Democrat lawmaker. You had the progressive movement starting to regain control. So, you know, you had folks like Jimmy Carter, you had Governor, I, I can’t remember his name right now, but very famous Florida governor.
00:33:19:28 – 00:33:57:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
In the end in 1968 the state police state constitution was revised and a lot of it was to get rid of the good old fashioned Jim Crow bigotry. But what they kept in it was the gun control part, the whole part of well the legislature has the right to regulate the method of carry. And even in 1987 when Florida became shell issue there was a change where an individual pled he he pled out to a to a felony charge and they you know they pulled him out to a misdemeanor or something.
00:33:57:06 – 00:34:25:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I forgot the basis of the case but in the end at the time when he pled out it wasn’t an issue. He then applied for his concealed carry permit. They issued it to him. His private practice was being a of a party of private investigator. And then later on, they retroactively changed the law that said, oh, even if you pled, even if you had a and you’re I can’t remember the legal term, but nolo.
00:34:26:21 – 00:34:28:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Nolo contendere where you contest.
00:34:28:17 – 00:34:31:20
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Thank you. I couldn’t remember it. My brain’s not functioning without coffee.
00:34:31:20 – 00:34:32:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I got my Latin on.
00:34:33:11 – 00:34:33:22
Announcer
Yeah.
00:34:34:08 – 00:35:09:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah. The courts literally said, well, you know, even though at the time this wasn’t an issue, we’re retroactively charging you with this. So we’re so we’re stripping you of your carry permit even though you were fine originally. And it’s because you don’t have a right to carry in Florida. You have a privilege to carry. And we still have that on the books to this day because if you remember, in the mid 2000s, you had Norman V State where Mr. Daley Norman, a black individual who was licensed to carry a firearm, was simply walking down the street in Fort Pierce, Florida.
00:35:09:29 – 00:35:34:04
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And he had an accidental exposure. His shirt rode up about his gun. He wasn’t like waving it. He wasn’t threatening people. He was literally just minding his own business, walking the street, and he would accidentally wrote up an expose fire on fire. Someone pulled a Karen called the cops on him and he was forced to the ground at gunpoint by three law enforcement officers of the Fort Pierce Police Department, went to the state Supreme Court.
00:35:34:04 – 00:35:56:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And the state Supreme Court said, yeah, you have a you don’t have a right to care. You have a privilege to carry the ban on open carry sign. And this is going on to this day. And this all traces its lineage back to Jim Crow bigotry and I constantly say this to everyone that claims that they’re for equality, they’re for fairness or for freedom.
00:35:56:22 – 00:36:15:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Okay. If you’re really for that, then you’re for constitutional. carry, and it makes anti-gun crap their heads because they go, Well, I’m for LGBT rights, I’m for Black Lives Matter and all. And honestly, I am. I’m for equality I believe everyone has the same rights. I don’t care if you’re white, black, gay, straight, you know, I don’t care.
00:36:15:28 – 00:36:16:17
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s what I.
00:36:16:20 – 00:36:16:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Should.
00:36:17:09 – 00:36:20:23
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s the place we should all be equal. Under the eyes of the law, right?
00:36:21:03 – 00:36:38:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah. But I push it on them and I go, Okay, so you claim to be for equality. Why do you support gun control? Mm hmm. And they always give me their shoes. Oh, well, you know, we have to do this because of criminals. Why do criminals always break the law? So I tell them again, why are you backing laws that can be traced literally?
00:36:39:05 – 00:36:43:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
To Jim Crow bigotry, and they just vapor lock.
00:36:44:23 – 00:36:47:14
Announcer
Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:36:48:11 – 00:37:09:20
Hank Strange (Host)
I listen, I think there’s a lot of problems we’re facing here in Florida with this. Like, you know, Florida is led by Republicans. So we’ve got a bunch of stuff that we’ve got to figure out what they’re up to. I’m actually I’m actually registered here as a Republican. Okay. So, Matt, what’s your opinion of this? What’s your opinion of, uh.
00:37:10:19 – 00:37:40:14
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Why I know is right? He knows his state history. And I can tell you that by and large, it’s almost the exact same line by line description of Georgia history as well. I think one reason that you’re seeing a resurgence of gun rights in the South is because the South, you know, is waking up to its past and dealing with its past because we’ve been successful at integrating folks have importance of every way, shape, form, fashion, and color.
00:37:41:06 – 00:38:04:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I think that, quite frankly, the pandemic did a lot of it to us. I think that we all now realize we are responsible for the care of our own families. I teach a lot of firearm seminars and I spoke at one. This is in between pandemic and riot you know, a protests. I tell folks that we really have riots in L.A. We had protests.
00:38:05:17 – 00:38:28:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I had a woman come up to me and she said, you know, she was mid-forties. Family transplant from the north, you know, northeast. She said, I didn’t believe I would ever have to have this conversation, but I need a gun. Is it too late? And I said, well, let’s take a breath. Let’s talk about the reason. Well, I want to protect my family and there aren’t many left.
00:38:28:08 – 00:38:50:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Should I just go by one absolutely not. You need to get some training. You need to try a bunch of different firearms, find something that you’re comfortable with or you’re not going to use it and train with it properly. And she went on to describe the fact that she and her husband felt like they had missed the boat on protecting their families, and they were at least happy they lived in a place that understood that you could do that.
00:38:52:03 – 00:39:17:04
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I think that’s a lot of what pushes us now in Georgia to continue to roll back those restrictions. These are rights that existed in 1791 when the Bill of Rights was ratified. You know, there weren’t restrictions like this on the Second Amendment. And, you know, even today even the Heller court said that there can be reasonable restrictions placed on regulating firearms, reasonable restrictions.
00:39:17:28 – 00:39:42:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
But I think you’re going to see from our Supreme Court before June when they take up the Bruin case, the New York State Rifle Association case, you’re going to see them for the very first time declare that lawful individuals, eligible individuals have the right to possess a firearm outside the home and it’s going to change the landscape of everything that we know about firearm rights in Georgia.
00:39:42:26 – 00:40:05:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
They’re going to be a lot of states that dig in California, Massachusetts, Washington, State, New York, to the extent that it will be able to Illinois will continue to blame everything on Indiana. But I think you’ll see a lot of other states that do realize that they need to give back to individuals the right to to claim that destiny of self-protection.
00:40:05:27 – 00:40:10:07
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s time for the grown ups to wake up. And I think at least 25 states have realized that.
00:40:10:21 – 00:40:11:01
Announcer
Yeah.
00:40:11:17 – 00:40:34:21
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, there’s an interesting there’s an interesting thing happening in America. I think more and more as time goes on, people are getting closer. And in reality, people are overcoming the differences between like, you know, what walk of life that you come from, what’s your, you know, what’s your skin color, etc.. Right. I think that’s reality. I think that’s happening more and more in America.
00:40:34:21 – 00:40:57:15
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s, you know, the way things should be, right? We can get smarter. We should do things better, even though the media doesn’t seem to see that. One of the weird things I think that’s happening is people are tearing down a lot of statues out there. Personally, I’m not for that. You know, I think regardless of what the history is of the people behind those statues, we need to leave it up so that we could go okay.
00:40:57:15 – 00:41:19:07
Hank Strange (Host)
This was history. Let’s look at it. Let’s see, like what the reality of it is. These guys did these good things. They did those bad things where people have different opinions about that. But how come when we’re tearing down those statues and we can’t tear down these statutes? Right. You know, all this this gun control stuff that as you guys were saying here, came out of racism in America.
00:41:19:15 – 00:41:24:18
Hank Strange (Host)
Well, how come the how come the the liberals out there, the gun grabbers don’t want to tear that stuff down?
00:41:26:05 – 00:41:55:14
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You know, I think we’re on the right track. And I think it’s because states like Georgia and Florida, Indiana, Ohio, Alabama, we realize now that it’s not the distinctions that make us who we are. It’s finding others of shared vision. Right. You know, we are three fellows that don’t look a whole lot alike, but we share the visions of self-protection and liberty to the extent that the law allows it.
00:41:55:24 – 00:41:58:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right. Well, but then we.
00:41:58:00 – 00:42:27:17
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00:42:31:26 – 00:42:39:17
Hank Strange (Host)
So that was my bag, guys. I was not even looking. I’m just like caught up in the conversation here with these guys. I was not even.
00:42:40:00 – 00:42:41:09
Announcer
Mentioned to that counter.
00:42:41:22 – 00:42:45:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I just want to say, Matt, I consider myself to be the best looking out of the three. Thank you.
00:42:45:15 – 00:42:49:11
Announcer
Very much. Oh, damn it. I was going to say that now you’ve divided us. Yeah.
00:42:50:23 – 00:42:54:03
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I. I got lot. I got the Latino charm going.
00:42:54:08 – 00:42:54:28
Announcer
Oh, yeah.
00:42:55:07 – 00:42:56:06
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Unity broken.
00:42:56:22 – 00:42:59:22
Announcer
Unity broken. It’s over now. It’s over. Yeah, it’s.
00:42:59:22 – 00:43:00:04
Hank Strange (Host)
Over.
00:43:01:18 – 00:43:02:09
Announcer
Where we’re.
00:43:02:09 – 00:43:20:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Where we. Oh, there’s a couple of things here. Let me see. Someone has a question for Georgia. Let me see if I can find this here. Okay. Brian Quick says I live in Georgia. How does the new constitutional carry statute affect where you can carry, can and cannot carry?
00:43:22:02 – 00:43:42:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So, again, it doesn’t change anything. About the who and the where. Just what it does. She’s the who weapons carry. License holders don’t need the license. The law says that as a lawful weapons carrier, someone who has the license is eligible for it out of state, who’s lawful to carry. Here, you can carry virtually everywhere, publicly and privately.
00:43:42:25 – 00:44:17:20
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
There are some exceptions where no one can carry courthouses, mental health facilities, nuclear or new killer, as we say them, nuclear power plants or churches without power or places of worship without permission. You can carry in Georgia, you can carry in a bar in a restaurant and a bank in a movie theater. You can here in a private vehicle if you’re eligible, you know, as a lawful carrier, you can carry in a shopping mall and we don’t have any law that says a sign is enough to keep you out.
00:44:18:02 – 00:44:42:21
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
What the law says is that the person in control of that property can exclude you or eject you. And that means they’ve got to tell you, you you have to leave. And if they tell you you have to leave and you don’t, well, that’s criminal trespass. And it always this question always leads into what I say when I’m as in my lawyer uniform, I’ve I’ve shed my lizard skin and I’ve taken on human appearance to be here with you.
00:44:43:05 – 00:44:46:18
Announcer
Right. Okay. You tell folks is right.
00:44:46:23 – 00:45:01:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, that’s all, folks, is that everyone has a right to remain silent, but very few people have the ability right so if you go into a store that has a sign and the fellow walks up to you and says, hey, did you see the sign? What sign? The sign on the door. What door? The door you walked through.
00:45:01:22 – 00:45:07:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I walk through a door. There’s a sign on the door. I don’t know. What does it say? No guns allowed. Oh, I’m sorry. I don’t read English.
00:45:07:29 – 00:45:08:07
Announcer
Right.
00:45:08:27 – 00:45:26:07
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Don’t talk to people they don’t know. You saw the sign if you don’t talk to them and if law enforcement gets involved, be polite, be respectful, but stand on your rights. You do not have to answer any questions. And then we say if you need help, in your U.S. lawsuit member, pull out a card, call the number your lawyers on this way.
00:45:26:21 – 00:45:41:05
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay, very good. I’ve got some other questions here. Let me say. Oh, Lola has a question. She says Georgia eventually got it done. What was the biggest barrier to getting constitutional? Carrie, we’re obviously going through that here. What’s up, Lewis?
00:45:42:02 – 00:46:07:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I’d love to answer that. It was your governor, just like in Texas. You had you you had Governor Brian Kemp literally tell the legislature, I want this on my desk and I want it on my desk now because Georgia just like Texas and just like Florida, Republican majority in the legislature, but a lot of them were squishy rhinos.
00:46:07:29 – 00:46:27:25
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But when the governor crack the whip the legislature goes, okay, we got to do this because they understand how down ballot voting works. If the governor’s doing great, then the legislature is either going to do great, but if they don’t follow them, they’re going to do bad. And that’s what our governor right now in Florida is doing. That’s what this office is doing.
00:46:27:25 – 00:46:52:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He’s cracking the whip the legislature didn’t do their job. Now he’s calling for special session, taking time away from their elections because they should be campaigning for reelection, especially since we’re redistricting. Every state senator is up for reelection right now and they’re all worried about their seats because you have a rush of primary challengers saying, oh, you didn’t pass constitutional, carry, vote for me, I’ll do it.
00:46:52:13 – 00:47:07:14
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. Brian Quick says Kemp wants to get reelected. And I agree with that. These guys, you know, they want to get reelected and they don’t want to answer that question to their constituents of what happened with constitutional. carry, go for it. Matt, let us what do you think? Do you agree.
00:47:08:19 – 00:47:28:26
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I think that’s a lot of it. I am not going to I’m not going to get on to the governor about doing what he did. I think he did the right thing. And I think he’s had a heart to do this. I do know that I believe that he expects some significant opposition short term from David Perdue who’s backed by Donald Trump.
00:47:29:07 – 00:47:38:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And as we all know, Donald Trump and Brian Kemp don’t really get along as well as they probably know they would like.
00:47:38:00 – 00:47:40:08
Announcer
Right. But so, you know.
00:47:41:26 – 00:47:50:21
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So so there’s a big there’s a big primary fight coming. Yeah. But then the biggest fight is yet to come because Stacey Abrams is back for round two.
00:47:51:04 – 00:47:57:07
Hank Strange (Host)
And very well-funded. Very well. I’m seeing ads here in Florida for Stacey Abrams.
00:47:58:03 – 00:47:58:12
Announcer
Oh, yeah.
00:47:58:17 – 00:48:20:05
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, now, what’s interesting about the funding issue is she was just this week there was a federal judge who said that she cannot raise she with the governor. There’s a special law in Georgia that allows a governor to collect funds early. She can’t take advantage of it. But she attacked it in a way as to enjoin the governor from doing it.
00:48:20:25 – 00:48:31:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And what the judge basically said was is Will, look, you said don’t let him do it. If you’d said let me do it, you know, maybe that would have been okay. But you’re saying, no, no, keep him from doing it. No, that’s not the law.
00:48:31:18 – 00:48:31:28
Announcer
Right.
00:48:32:06 – 00:48:41:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s going to be a huge fight. That’s why they rolled her out on Star Trek a few weeks ago, obviously. Did you see that where she was the president of the United Federation of Planets on Instagram.
00:48:42:06 – 00:48:42:29
Hank Strange (Host)
Is this a joke?
00:48:43:03 – 00:48:44:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Was it? No, no.
00:48:44:14 – 00:48:46:29
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It was on season two of the card, but.
00:48:47:23 – 00:48:52:21
Announcer
Dumped on the love of the show. No, I don’t look at it. The door.
00:48:52:21 – 00:48:54:21
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Squish open and there Stacey.
00:48:54:21 – 00:48:56:22
Announcer
Abrams yeah.
00:48:56:28 – 00:48:57:29
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yeah, it was.
00:48:58:03 – 00:49:02:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Oh, you’re not me. You’re not missing anything. Star Trek. Oh I have 29.
00:49:02:15 – 00:49:13:04
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. I haven’t watched Picard so let me see. Oh, do I even want to see this? I don’t want to see her when she shows up in ads on my when I’m when I’m watching YouTube. I don’t want to, you know.
00:49:13:13 – 00:49:21:04
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
She I you cannot discount her. She is she is a deadly adversary for anyone. Wow.
00:49:21:07 – 00:49:25:11
Hank Strange (Host)
They put her on Star Trek. Oh, they’re not messing around. She’s got big money behind her. Then.
00:49:26:16 – 00:49:38:06
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yeah. So it’s going to be a knockdown, drag out. And I got to be honest with you, I’m sure the governor thought that this was low hanging fruit, but nobody’s complaining. Well, so he did the right thing.
00:49:38:17 – 00:49:49:12
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. One of the things one of the things I think happening in in Georgia is that there’s a big movie like it. There’s a big section of Hollywood came to Georgia. Right.
00:49:50:21 – 00:49:51:26
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
All of Hollywood is here.
00:49:52:12 – 00:50:02:28
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. There’s a lot of movies getting made there. But then I think I’m trying to remember the name of the guy who built a studio. There’s a a black filmmaker that built a studio there. And his mind, Tyler.
00:50:02:28 – 00:50:04:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Perry took over.
00:50:04:05 – 00:50:04:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Perry.
00:50:04:21 – 00:50:05:27
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
An entire campus. Yeah.
00:50:06:00 – 00:50:28:27
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. So Tyler Perry put that there. You know, something happened with Hollywood, and they don’t like what’s going down in Georgia. So, you know, they’re like, okay, we’re going to pump a bunch of money into this. And that’s always a bad sign for Georgia. I think it’s a good sign that there’s filmmaking happening there, right? Business. But now they want to mess up Georgia as much as Hollywood is messed up.
00:50:29:15 – 00:50:58:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, it goes back to some of the decisions that have been made legislatively about restricting abortion here in Georgia and also the the election law that was passed last year that were some amendments made to the election laws. And that’s why Georgia lost the World Series. And the World Series was transferred to a state where the election laws are even more restrictive than Georgia’s so, you know, it’s I guess that’s what the kids call gaslighting.
00:50:58:00 – 00:51:22:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I don’t know. But the movie industry is huge here. I give you a little anecdote. In Fayette County, Georgia, driving through little Fayette County, Georgia, top a hill, and you run into a complex that looks like a city. They’ve got 12 or 15 hangars that could park 15 airplanes apiece. That’s where all the Avenger movies are made.
00:51:22:11 – 00:51:23:09
Announcer
Mm hmm. Yeah.
00:51:23:13 – 00:51:37:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s it’s incredible. Every you can’t swing a cat and not hit a movie production here in Atlanta. And, you know, for a while we were worried about that Kemp said, Nope, we’re doing this. And everybody’s getting along now. Too much money to be made.
00:51:38:07 – 00:51:57:02
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. Yeah. It’s going to be interesting to see to see what comes out of that. You know, it’s good things. Look, my my son wants to be an actor. He’s done a lot of acting and improv and stuff like that. And he he wants to go live in Atlanta and pursue that. And I don’t want to get in his way, but I just don’t, you know?
00:51:57:27 – 00:51:59:03
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, I think I remember.
00:51:59:04 – 00:52:00:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
One more time to come along.
00:52:00:10 – 00:52:18:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, I think there’s some bad things that’s going to come out of, you know, the politics aspect taken over here because, you know, a lot of this stuff may work for wealthy people. And I really don’t think it will but in the end, though, the average people out there need to be able to defend themselves. Right. There’s a lot of things these guys don’t like.
00:52:18:22 – 00:52:39:17
Hank Strange (Host)
It has similarities with Disney. You know, if you if you could imagine, like when I was a kid growing up with Disney, and if you said to me that Disney will be trying to force, you know, the state of Florida, to allow teachers to talk to kids, little kids that are four or five, six years old about sex and all that kind of stuff.
00:52:39:17 – 00:52:59:14
Hank Strange (Host)
I would’ve said there’s no way no way Disney would try to do that. And that’s exactly what we’re dealing with here. And it’s because Disney has been taken over by a faction of Hollywood. Right. And this is the same thing that they’re looking to to do with Georgia and the same thing that’s affecting Florida here. And these guys have a lot of money.
00:52:59:21 – 00:53:03:03
Hank Strange (Host)
And that money can affect politicians, including Republicans.
00:53:04:02 – 00:53:31:28
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Absolutely. I do think that nationally the midterms are going to have some impact on that. I think you’re going to you would see this swing and as a midterm election from a Democratically controlled presidency anyway or Republican or presidency. But I think just because the way the pandemic played out and Ukraine and whatever else you want to add into it, I think you’re going to see a big swing nationally that’s going to trickle down to two hotbed states like Georgia.
00:53:31:28 – 00:53:47:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I think, you know, one of our to our senators is what was what won the U.S. Senate for the Democrats to control the U.S. Senate and Warnock’s position. That was a special election. He’s back up for grabs again.
00:53:47:25 – 00:53:48:22
Announcer
Mm hmm. Yeah.
00:53:49:02 – 00:53:50:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
He’s already he’s already on TV.
00:53:50:27 – 00:54:13:25
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. I’m seeing Warnock in ads here, too, on YouTube. And of course, you’re seeing it on YouTube because YouTube is allowing that. YouTube is even asking me about politics. Now, you know how sometimes if you’re watching YouTube, you get a survey instead of an ad? Mm hmm. They’re asking me about politics. I can’t remember. I wanted to take a picture of it, and it went away because I one none of the options did I want to check.
00:54:13:25 – 00:54:36:05
Hank Strange (Host)
And if you if that happens, you know, it goes away because I was getting I was getting out my camera to take a picture but it was something like, what are your most important issues? And it, like, was, you know, and it was gun control. This all the and I was like, oh, this this is not none of this is trying to find out, you know, if I’m conservative, this is all assuming that you’re a liberal.
00:54:37:07 – 00:54:52:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
The devil’s in the details with those types of things. And it goes back. I mean, you guys see this, Lewis, you see this all the time. You have a guy who gets on to a New York subway train with a handgun. And what’s the first thing out of the president’s mouth? We need to ban ghost guns. We need to ban assault weapons.
00:54:52:11 – 00:54:59:12
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
We need to ban high capacity mags. He didn’t have any of that stuff, folks. He had a gun that I believe he was lawfully acquired correct?
00:55:00:07 – 00:55:35:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He did. And it’s it’s just it’s the same old song and dance. They constantly push this and you know, going. You were you mentioned Disney. Disney has a lot of sway in Florida other than them being the improvement district. They literally have over 25 to 30 registered lobbyists working in Florida, and they’ve donated heavily to Republican lawmakers. Now, what’s interesting is some Republican lawmakers, like Representative Barnaby, he’s actually refunded Disney, their campaign contributions.
00:55:35:02 – 00:56:05:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But others, like Representative David Smith, who I mentioned earlier, who said, oh, you know, I’m against open carry, unconstitutional carry because of international tourism. Mind you, international tourists only make up less than 4% of the total population of people that visit Florida. He I believe he stated he has not returned and will not return his Disney contributions and no clue about our illustrious anti-gun Senate president, Wilton Simpson, if he’s going to return money back to this also.
00:56:05:27 – 00:56:06:10
Announcer
So, yeah.
00:56:06:19 – 00:56:11:14
Hank Strange (Host)
We get a lot of people coming from other countries to Florida just to shoot guns, by the way.
00:56:12:10 – 00:56:23:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Oh, it’s it’s it’s insane. If you go on international drive in Kissimmee, right next door to Disney, you have machine. There are they’re called Machine Gun America, Machine Gun U.S.A..
00:56:24:03 – 00:56:24:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Something like that.
00:56:24:22 – 00:56:49:17
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And it is a it is a gun range that all they do is their their their classroom manufacture. They make their own engines and they literally rent it out to foreign tourists and they make money hand-over-fist. You have people from all over the world going there because they want to shoot a machine gun. And as you also know, Solo, you are the gentleman that does a lot of the open carry fishing stuff here in Florida.
00:56:50:06 – 00:57:15:20
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He just recently released a video showing all of the tourists from across the world that want to take pictures with him while he’s open, carrying, doing his fishing events. But again, you have a Republican lawmaker saying, I’m going to trample and block Floridians Second Amendment rights because I think the money that only 3% of the entire tourist industry bring in are more important than the rights of everyone else.
00:57:15:20 – 00:57:48:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Mind you, out of 122 million people that visited Florida last year, only 4 million of them were international tourists. So that means the other 118 million people were from the U.S. and let’s see, 47 states have open carry. 25 states now have constitutional carry and just to reiterate this, every tourist from across the U.S. that drives to Florida will be driving through a constitutional carrying jurisdiction to go to Florida.
00:57:49:10 – 00:58:05:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
If it was such an issue, they wouldn’t have Open-Carry in their home states. They wouldn’t have constitutional carry in their home states. So the idea that Open-Carry and constitutional carry will hurt tourism is laughable. It’s ludicrously laughable.
00:58:06:04 – 00:58:06:15
Announcer
Yeah.
00:58:06:27 – 00:58:22:24
Hank Strange (Host)
I agree with that. Okay, listen, we’re in the Goran section. You know, we should talk about we should throw up some kind of guns here in this picture. You know, just just for. I know you’ve got something nice. So what do you want to show us? Let’s start with Louis. Let’s go for it.
00:58:24:20 – 00:58:49:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Plastic. And you always got to go with the classic Smith and Wesson model. 41 22 long rifle. It was considered the Cadillac of 22 target pistols released in 1947, still made to the stage. This one was made in the late sixties, early seventies. On average, these bad boys go for over 15 1600 bucks. This has never been fired.
00:58:49:17 – 00:58:52:07
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Got it with the original box paid 400 bucks for it.
00:58:52:20 – 00:59:05:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Wow. Very nice. Congratulations. That is also one of the favorite things for gun guys to do. By the way. If you don’t, everyone out there is a gun guy. But if you don’t know this gun guys like to go listen I got this for good money.
00:59:06:02 – 00:59:08:23
Announcer
You know, like I got.
00:59:08:23 – 00:59:10:01
Hank Strange (Host)
This for 75 bucks.
00:59:10:01 – 00:59:12:09
Announcer
These costs at least 1500 bucks.
00:59:12:09 – 00:59:18:01
Hank Strange (Host)
Now they’re like with arcades. I don’t, I don’t know a case where never really 75 bucks, but. Okay, what.
00:59:18:01 – 00:59:22:25
Announcer
Else you got, Louis? It’s Louis for the wealthiest. Yeah.
00:59:23:07 – 00:59:27:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Special awesome model. 38 double action made in 1882.
00:59:28:12 – 00:59:30:16
Announcer
Wow. Yeah. Capri.
00:59:31:07 – 00:59:38:28
Hank Strange (Host)
Nice. Very nice. Was that a police gun at some point I’m wondering, was that no.
00:59:40:29 – 00:59:46:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I believe Boston or Baltimore P.D. issued these points.
00:59:46:28 – 00:59:48:09
Announcer
Okay. Yeah.
00:59:49:08 – 00:59:52:17
Hank Strange (Host)
Very cool. Matt. I know.
00:59:52:25 – 01:00:15:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, so I told you I didn’t bring anywhere in the. I can kind of tell you, though. Yeah, my daily carries a Glock 19 Gen3 with a cut slide. I had the whole son. And what I’ve done is I’ve got a little special present for anybody who breaks in the house. I keep a under the bed CMG banshee in 40.
01:00:15:08 – 01:00:17:05
Announcer
Five watts an okay.
01:00:17:25 – 01:00:28:21
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yeah and it’s a good air pistol but I’ve I am right handed I’m left I dominant I’m near-sighted and I wear multi vocals so.
01:00:30:06 – 01:00:31:13
Announcer
Okay so this this is.
01:00:31:13 – 01:00:33:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Why the red. What did you say Louis.
01:00:34:16 – 01:00:36:11
Announcer
Lawyer. Lawyer. Yeah.
01:00:37:00 – 01:00:38:05
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s not why.
01:00:38:05 – 01:00:42:01
Announcer
I say use. I thought he was going to say nerd. Well no.
01:00:42:09 – 01:00:58:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well it’s not quite brain spray but I did put the same optic on both of them. It’s got, it’s a hollow sun with the little to my way. Not in the 60 mwe circle. Everybody in the family knows put the circle on the chest and pull till you can’t hear anything yeah.
01:00:58:20 – 01:01:10:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh Hollow Suns. Good one of them. Yeah. Whole Suns are doing good stuff. I’m going to pull out something here. So this is one, this is not the first gun that I got, but one of the first guns. You know, everyone, you know, like.
01:01:10:09 – 01:01:10:26
Announcer
Old.
01:01:10:27 – 01:01:14:13
Hank Strange (Host)
Old, old Joe Biden always talks about shotguns.
01:01:14:13 – 01:01:16:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You know that a Mossberg. 500. Yeah.
01:01:17:00 – 01:01:36:01
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, yeah, right. They have Mossberg. So there’s people who like Remington and people who like Mossberg. I am a Mossberg guy because I like that safety right there. You know, I like where you could just put your hand right up there and you go off fire. So I like that. But yeah, this. So I had this over my bed for a long time.
01:01:36:17 – 01:01:40:06
Hank Strange (Host)
The smart Mossberg shotgun I tactical lasted did a little bit. I don’t think.
01:01:40:06 – 01:01:41:00
Announcer
I. Yeah, you did.
01:01:41:03 – 01:01:48:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. No crime. Still crimes. It’s got a light on it, you know. Yeah. Very happy with this. I change the stock too.
01:01:49:07 – 01:01:50:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Is that a 12 or a 20?
01:01:52:02 – 01:01:53:13
Hank Strange (Host)
This is 12.
01:01:54:01 – 01:02:11:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So the reason I ask is my, my first gun was 19 at Christmas of 86. My grandfather, I was in seventh grade, my grandfather purchased a Mossberg 512 gauge. Oh. And I’ve, I’ve still got it.
01:02:11:16 – 01:02:11:23
Announcer
Yeah I.
01:02:11:25 – 01:02:19:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Got it. That, that and a Marlin model. 60 22 know the little tube that you fed the little 22 down into.
01:02:20:02 – 01:02:21:07
Announcer
The wall that both of those.
01:02:21:22 – 01:02:22:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. Mossberg.
01:02:22:17 – 01:02:28:15
Announcer
Oh boy. Yeah. Louis. Oh all that noise you just heard.
01:02:28:16 – 01:02:52:29
Hank Strange (Host)
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01:02:54:15 – 01:03:05:29
Hank Strange (Host)
So someone was asking me who was at night and said, do you keep that Mossberg Cruiser ready? What is Cruiser ready when you don’t have one in the chamber? But the tubes. The tubes.
01:03:06:05 – 01:03:07:01
Announcer
For a format.
01:03:07:15 – 01:03:10:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Full magazine tube is loaded and you keep the chamber empty.
01:03:10:24 – 01:03:35:29
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. So that’s how I would keep it when it was when it was over my bed. It’s not over my bed anymore. Now what I have and I don’t have it here with me, but I have a integrally suppressed 300 black out air. So the suppressor part was built up by liberty suppressors is the Leonidas and that’s what I have by the by the bed integrally suppressed.
01:03:36:06 – 01:03:49:14
Hank Strange (Host)
So I don’t really have this there anymore. This is in the safe now. But, you know, it was my it was my go to it was my go to here. Okay. There you go. Let’s go to let’s go to what Lewis has here. Come on. Those go for I know.
01:03:50:14 – 01:03:53:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Standard a standard way to rifle.
01:03:54:04 – 01:04:05:26
Announcer
Yeah. I like that. Does it make you go Astra that’s definitely a show with us. Go call. No, go back, go back. First of all.
01:04:07:02 – 01:04:11:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Is this how you like to wrap your your sling around the gun like that? That’s interesting.
01:04:12:12 – 01:04:13:20
Announcer
Yeah. Oh, okay.
01:04:14:18 – 01:04:16:24
Hank Strange (Host)
Where did you where did you get that from?
01:04:17:26 – 01:04:18:04
Announcer
Like.
01:04:19:06 – 01:04:28:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Well, I’ve had the bayonet since I was in the army, but I got out. I wanted to have a clone of my service license, so. So to.
01:04:28:23 – 01:04:32:20
Hank Strange (Host)
So and so what was your as a colt when you were in.
01:04:33:21 – 01:04:34:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
F1?
01:04:34:15 – 01:04:41:01
Hank Strange (Host)
FN Oh, okay. Interesting, interesting. And then that’s the so that’s the exact million that you had, right?
01:04:41:24 – 01:04:43:07
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yep. That’s the number seven banner.
01:04:43:29 – 01:04:55:01
Hank Strange (Host)
Very nice. That’s why is that always Okay. Okay. I don’t know. Lewis only knows what. No, you only want to show us the bayonet. Let’s see the world.
01:04:55:01 – 01:04:58:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Because it’s what makes it what makes the grass grow.
01:05:01:08 – 01:05:02:04
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay, I get.
01:05:02:04 – 01:05:04:27
Announcer
It. Yes, I understand. That’s how you did 28.
01:05:05:05 – 01:05:10:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It’s also 20 inches a rifle barrel. I want to have the whole thing on. I got to stand back lean back.
01:05:10:24 – 01:05:14:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Golf is got to show you that one in installments, right?
01:05:14:17 – 01:05:16:07
Hank Strange (Host)
He’s like, this is how the grass grows.
01:05:16:14 – 01:05:18:20
Announcer
We we feed the grass with blood.
01:05:20:21 – 01:05:23:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But that’s not what I still keep around for. Home defense.
01:05:23:13 – 01:05:24:02
Announcer
Oh, that’s good.
01:05:24:16 – 01:05:25:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Sometimes.
01:05:25:14 – 01:05:42:25
Hank Strange (Host)
You know? That’s nice, man. I like that way. What is this? Chili fungus says Hank. Yeah. First of all, Lola says that doesn’t look standard. Chili fungus, says Hanks. It’s Brian doesn’t do it any longer. May I ask each guests what’s their favorite Billy Ocean song is? Oh, my God.
01:05:43:07 – 01:05:49:14
Announcer
How did I fall into this trap? Okay. My favorite. Billy. Oh, shit. Go for it.
01:05:50:01 – 01:05:57:13
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You know, everybody’s a fan of Caribbean Queen or Caribbean Queen, but I got to go with There’ll be sad songs to make you cry.
01:05:57:25 – 01:05:59:20
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, wow. Okay. There you go. Good one.
01:05:59:28 – 01:06:05:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Is that love songs off and do great video, by the way. You need to check that video out.
01:06:05:03 – 01:06:05:13
Announcer
Yeah.
01:06:05:13 – 01:06:11:27
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Okay, so Louis, I think you’ve been asked this question before we go for it.
01:06:12:15 – 01:06:15:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I’ve been asked, and you know my answer, that I didn’t like the ocean.
01:06:16:09 – 01:06:18:27
Announcer
Yeah, well, okay.
01:06:18:28 – 01:06:21:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Who was your who was your dude? Who was your dude? If not.
01:06:21:09 – 01:06:25:04
Announcer
Really? Oh, I don’t know. I mean.
01:06:25:05 – 01:06:25:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Purple people.
01:06:25:28 – 01:06:27:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Rick Astley kind of guy.
01:06:27:05 – 01:06:28:24
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, Prince. He said Prince. Okay.
01:06:29:18 – 01:06:30:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Prince.
01:06:30:09 – 01:06:31:27
Announcer
No, no, no, no.
01:06:32:20 – 01:06:33:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Prince, man, Prince.
01:06:34:08 – 01:06:35:28
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, Prince. That was your dude. Prince.
01:06:36:14 – 01:06:42:01
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Okay, I like I like Prince. The French was in some. Had some good music, man.
01:06:42:10 – 01:06:46:20
Hank Strange (Host)
No, Prince is the man that’s respectable. See, like, my parents were born like that. And if.
01:06:46:20 – 01:06:47:01
Announcer
It wasn’t.
01:06:49:21 – 01:06:51:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And if it wasn’t that, it was like Celia Cruz.
01:06:52:14 – 01:06:55:05
Announcer
Okay, Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Okay.
01:06:55:13 – 01:07:08:11
Hank Strange (Host)
So there you go. So there you go. I hope he does. Shelly Funguses. Sorry, guys. I loved it when Brian used to pull that one there. You go and Lola says, laugh out loud, Matt installments.
01:07:09:29 – 01:07:17:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Oh, yeah. I mean, that the barrel on that gun’s 20 inches long, right? He’s, you know, he’s got to rent space to show the rest of it.
01:07:17:26 – 01:07:18:03
Announcer
Yeah.
01:07:18:26 – 01:07:21:29
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You can only have one guest when you have when you have a rifle.
01:07:21:29 – 01:07:22:11
Announcer
That long.
01:07:24:02 – 01:07:25:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It gets its own camera.
01:07:25:16 – 01:07:26:08
Announcer
Right? That’s right.
01:07:26:09 – 01:07:27:25
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It gets its own camera. Gun cams.
01:07:28:20 – 01:07:36:05
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. Louis has a nice what I’m realizing Louis has a nice collection, but he very like, meter’s everything is like, I’m not pulling.
01:07:36:05 – 01:07:40:21
Announcer
Out. It makes you work for it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Okay.
01:07:41:15 – 01:07:48:11
Hank Strange (Host)
While you’re looking, I’m going to show. So this is my other one here. Check this out. You guys know what this is?
01:07:49:05 – 01:07:50:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, sure. A little.
01:07:50:00 – 01:08:03:27
Hank Strange (Host)
A little. IOW, this is from a safety harbor. Firearms right there, the big 12. Let’s see if I can get it to focus so you can see it right there, kid. 12 from Safety Harbor Firearms. Love this. Love this little bad boy right here. Man.
01:08:06:04 – 01:08:20:10
Hank Strange (Host)
I’m not sure I believe that Walter or Safe Harbor Firearm said that they. I think they’re not making these anymore. I’ve got to check with him. I don’t know. I think they had a few left, but I don’t think they’re making these anymore. And then if you got.
01:08:20:10 – 01:08:20:23
Announcer
The thumb.
01:08:20:23 – 01:08:28:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Strength, you can actually fold that here. Now, do you remember who watch Miami Vice here? We all like people who watch what I was just.
01:08:28:09 – 01:08:34:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
About to say. That’s something that looks straight out of Miami Vice for the A-Team. It’s not a mini 30 so I know it’s not right.
01:08:34:08 – 01:08:34:29
Announcer
Out of the air right.
01:08:36:17 – 01:08:39:19
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Tubbs carried a short barreled it’s a good model. 37.
01:08:39:24 – 01:08:40:04
Announcer
Yeah.
01:08:40:11 – 01:09:02:00
Hank Strange (Host)
So right there. And my friend Sam Andrews of Andrews Custom Leather, he makes like the most awesome leather holsters. And I’ve done a lot of videos on my main channel with Sam Andrews. He makes something for this call the fire power rig. So and I’ve got videos out there. So you can have, you can have this, you can have a Glock.
01:09:02:00 – 01:09:20:01
Hank Strange (Host)
I have like a like mine. I have like Glock 19 a Glock 17. You can have extra Glock mags, extra, extra 12 gauge rounds is friggin awesome. You guys should look that up if you want to see firepower. Rick But I live in Florida, so I don’t really you know, that Firepower rig is really for like the apocalypse.
01:09:21:02 – 01:09:22:15
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Or just a trip to Atlanta.
01:09:22:20 – 01:09:24:05
Announcer
Right? Yeah, exactly.
01:09:25:13 – 01:09:29:06
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay, Louis, you look like you got something else here. Was, was, was this.
01:09:30:23 – 01:09:42:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Looks like a run of the mill shotgun, which it is. It’s standard 20 gauge browning out of 509. So it’s a Belgian made oh. Except there’s a little bit of interesting family history to it.
01:09:43:00 – 01:09:48:11
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s really nice by the way I don’t I you don’t really see those those often anymore. They’re really good looking guns, though.
01:09:48:14 – 01:09:50:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
That’s a grandfather hunting gun right there.
01:09:50:18 – 01:09:50:28
Announcer
Yeah.
01:09:51:04 – 01:10:12:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
That shotgun belonged to my Uncle Mario. And Hank knows I’ve talked about him before. He was a Cuban patriot who was one of the main organizers of the Bay of Pigs invasion. Wow. And I have two guns from him. I have that. And I have a Walther PPK, which I don’t have the Walter PPK here right now.
01:10:13:12 – 01:10:13:25
Announcer
Oh, sweet.
01:10:13:27 – 01:10:36:04
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But that was his hunting gun until he passed away. Mm hmm. And I remember as a kid, him taking that to a uncle of mine’s farm in Oklahoma to Doug Hunt. And now I have in my collection, and eventually it’s going to go to my daughter and we’re never getting rid of it. It’s it’s a run of the mill shotgun.
01:10:36:04 – 01:10:40:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I mean, it’s been beaten and abused. Uh.
01:10:41:03 – 01:10:42:15
Announcer
Multiple rounds, though, right?
01:10:43:06 – 01:10:45:22
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Oh, it’s it’s still it’s smooth. I mean.
01:10:46:02 – 01:10:46:11
Announcer
Yeah.
01:10:47:11 – 01:10:49:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah, I still shoot it to this day.
01:10:49:05 – 01:10:49:17
Announcer
But.
01:10:50:05 – 01:11:20:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It’s beaten and abused, scratched off. But this is one of the things, you know, everyone has that. Look, I have all the tactical stuff, too. I have short rope dialogs. I have you name it. But every family should have something like this, something that they could trace back to someone that meant something in their family. And my uncle meant a lot to me because he he left Cuba, was recruited by the CIA.
01:11:21:01 – 01:12:05:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Well planned. The Bay of Pigs took part of the Bay of Pigs and spent the majority of his adult life of my entire childhood working as a CIA operative, fighting against totalitarianism, fighting against communism, socialism, Marxism across Latin America and the globe. Mm hmm. And as a kid growing up, you know, when I was a little kid playing in his house, I didn’t put two and two together, but he was that instrumental in making sure that as Americans, we didn’t have totalitarianism visit our shores, which is as you know, I mean, look, half my family basically was butchered by communism and Cuba to this day.
01:12:05:18 – 01:12:23:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We see it in Cuba, we see it in Venezuela. We see in North Korea, we see it in Russia. We see it in every totalitarian dictatorship you can think of, whether it’s right wing, your left wing. And one of the lessons my uncle told me and I remember I was a kid, he said a free people are an armed people.
01:12:23:14 – 01:12:48:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Armed people are never slaves, only the disarmed or slave state. And it doesn’t matter whether you have something like this, whether you have any AR 15, a Glock 17 or shock, it doesn’t matter. Every totalitarian dictatorship, the first thing they do is they go after guns. And Fidel Castro, when he seized power, the first thing he did was you stood before the people and he said almost forget it, literally translating to guns why guns?
01:12:48:09 – 01:13:11:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Meaning why do you need guns with the states here? We’ll protect you. Yeah we’re has that gun and I know the section is that we always joke about it and we it’s always supposed to be jovial but especially with what’s going on now on our on the federal side of government on a number of state level governments, they’re trying to go after our gun rights to where it’s no longer just about fun.
01:13:11:24 – 01:13:40:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, look, I love taking that to the range and busting clays, man. But we have right now a level of control that has been let me rephrase it. We have right now to two groups battling. You know, we have authoritarians and liberty minded people. It’s no longer left versus right, Republican versus Democrat. Because you have people in the Republican Party just as bad as Democrats and vice versa.
01:13:41:09 – 01:13:55:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And every 25 states now have constitutional. carry and part of that was because the people have said enough’s enough. You know, as you mentioned earlier, Matt, as you mentioned earlier, you didn’t have riots. And in Georgia you had protests.
01:13:55:25 – 01:13:56:13
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Protest.
01:13:56:17 – 01:14:10:29
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And people countered those violent protests with their Second Amendment rights. Right now, the issue here in Florida is we don’t have open carry. We can’t openly counter violence like that. And it’s a shame because.
01:14:11:05 – 01:14:19:25
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
As to that point, I just interrupt you, though, word protection of self, be a defense to any weapons violation like that was.
01:14:20:18 – 01:14:47:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, we just had an incident in Gainesville Florida where a gentleman and his girlfriend were attacked, punched in the face. He was bleeding from the face. His girlfriend was was attacked and pushed to the ground and all that. He didn’t have a concealed carry permit. Now, this happened in the parking lot area where he was. This was like two in the morning and he reached into his vehicle and he pulled out his firearm.
01:14:47:28 – 01:14:53:07
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And, you know, he defended himself. Gainesville PD arrested him for carrying without a permit.
01:14:53:29 – 01:14:54:18
Hank Strange (Host)
When did this.
01:14:54:18 – 01:15:19:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Mind you, if this happened? A couple. Yeah, recently a week or two ago or a couple of weeks ago. Within easily within the last four weeks this happened. Okay. And again, you had an individual who’s minding his own business in Miami, Florida, claims to be a stand your ground state. You know, we claim to have a law that if you have an accidental brief exposure, it’s not a criminal offense.
01:15:19:28 – 01:15:21:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, we have all of this, but we don’t have open carry.
01:15:22:11 – 01:15:24:12
Announcer
Yeah. And you have to gauge people.
01:15:24:13 – 01:15:29:03
Hank Strange (Host)
Very liberal. Gainesville is a very liberal town. And it’s, you know, oh.
01:15:29:03 – 01:15:32:25
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Greg, Gainesville is the Berkeley of the South. It’s it’s the Berkeley of the deep.
01:15:33:05 – 01:15:41:07
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. I live outside of Gainesville. I mean, it’s very close to me. I didn’t hear about that. I need to I need to look it up. I don’t know if you sent me that or not. You might have and idea.
01:15:41:17 – 01:16:01:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I might have. I wrote a piece on it on the truth about guns. And I’ll just send you directly the arrest affidavit. Yeah, but in the end, the guy defended his girlfriend and himself by reaching into his vehicle and pulling out a legally owned firearm. And he was arrested for simply having it without a government issued permission slip.
01:16:02:08 – 01:16:23:13
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Or so to to piggyback on that, one of the things that I see all the time as a defense attorney and I was a prosecutor before I became a defense attorney is the misapplication of the law. Lewis, I’m sure you’ll know what I’m talking about here. What I explain to folks when I teach is there is a principle of the law and there is a practical of the law.
01:16:23:27 – 01:16:50:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And the principle is, is you have a right to defend yourself. You have a right to possess a fire, and you have a right to carry a firearm openly. There is a law in Georgia that would prevent a police officer from detaining you simply because you had a firearm. That’s the principle. The practical is that officer may not know the law, that officer may know the law and not care that that officer may know the law and not really understand the law and feel like that officer has to do something.
01:16:50:14 – 01:17:08:29
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So regardless of whether you are right or whether you are wrong, you still run the risk of being arrested. And the law in Georgia says that if you act in defense of self or in defense of another person, you cannot be convicted. Right. The law actually says you cannot be prosecuted, but you don’t have to invoke that right.
01:17:08:29 – 01:17:18:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Of self-defense unless you’ve been arrested. Charged, hauled into court, made to post bond, had to hire a lawyer. And now you’re fighting for your life and for your liberty.
01:17:19:03 – 01:17:21:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Right. Because it’s an affirmative defense.
01:17:22:17 – 01:17:45:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Exactly. It’s an affirmative defense. We call an absolute affirmative affirmative defense justification. So what I like to teach and not preach but what I like to teach is there’s a principle and a practical. The principle is you have that Second Amendment right. And, yes, you can go out and carry a firearm to a counterprotest but the practical is, if you don’t want to get in trouble, stay at home.
01:17:45:29 – 01:18:08:07
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right. Those doors get progressively much smaller. What I tell folks is that as a law abiding gun owner, you have to be the adult in every every discussion that you have, you have to make decisions that other folks don’t have to make. You can’t drive to the post office to drop off Christmas cards or Hanukkah cards or birthday cards.
01:18:08:16 – 01:18:26:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right. Because it’s a violation of federal law. To possess a firearm on postal property and you can carry a gun into a bank. Why would you carry it openly? Well, because that’s my right. Okay. Well, if they let you in, which they probably will, and the bad guy comes in behind you, you’re the first person to get shot, you know, hide your candy.
01:18:26:26 – 01:18:46:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Don’t let people know what you’re thinking. You don’t have to put it out there. Don’t don’t post yourself on Instagram. Don’t open up your safe on Facebook live and show where the guns are. Right. Be smart, be demure. Don’t tell folks what you’re thinking. Don’t. Don’t tell folks what you’re carrying. Get off social media. Don’t take pictures of your guns and just protect yourself and your family.
01:18:47:15 – 01:18:53:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
The principle is you have a right to do this. The practical is, why would you need to okay.
01:18:53:25 – 01:18:56:16
Announcer
Sorry. I think a little bit of a soapbox, huh?
01:18:57:03 – 01:19:12:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I think it goes even to a simpler issue of malaman say versus mal and prohibit them. And for folks that don’t understand that emoluments is wrong because of the nature mal and prohibit them is wrong because of administrative procedure or prohibited by law.
01:19:13:02 – 01:19:14:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Murder versus a parking violation.
01:19:15:14 – 01:19:49:07
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah, exactly. And self-defense is malum and say you have that natural right it’s an ingrained natural right. The banning of carrying without a permit. That’s my own privilege. That’s only against the law because some legislator decided to make it against the law. Mhm. Right. And that’s, that’s the biggest issue that I think Americans as a whole are fighting right now, whether they’re left or the right, they’re tired of Maryland prohibit them, they’re tired of so many arbitrary laws passed as regulation to control people.
01:19:49:20 – 01:20:10:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
When I was a free society we want to be able to be free because if you look at a free society, there is always an inherent risk. You will never remove inherent risk. We can look at again New York City, we can look at Los Angeles, Chicago, we can look at the places with the most draconian gun laws on the books.
01:20:10:26 – 01:20:33:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And you still have violent crime. You still have people being attacked, you have people still being victimized. But if you remove those regulations and those restrictions and you allow the people the freedom to exercise their rights, that they’re born with rights that existed even before the Constitution enacted, because remember, the Constitution doesn’t grant you rights the constitution simply enumerated rights.
01:20:33:15 – 01:21:03:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
These were our inalienable rights. Rights that the founders understood existed even before the Articles of Confederation were even drafted. That is the basis of what we’re fighting for right now. And as you said, you have to be responsible. And one of the things that I’ve noticed very interestingly is when constitutional carry is passed, we have an uptick in people seeking firearms training, not because it’s mandatory or regulated but because they want to better themselves.
01:21:03:09 – 01:21:21:22
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They want to better educate themselves because they understand, hey, now I don’t have to go through this burdensome hassle of getting a firearm. The funds and the time I would have spent to do that can now be better to make myself better. And I’m part of that here in Florida specifically. And Hank knows this. We have mandatory training to get a concealed carry permit.
01:21:21:22 – 01:21:41:19
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And that mandatory training basically equates to someone reading a PowerPoint presentation, loading a single shot revolver or a single action revolver with 22 shorts standing of six feet from a bucket of sand and telling them to crank off those six rounds and then they sign them off is trained. Mind you, the individual isn’t trained because it’s a false narrative.
01:21:41:23 – 01:22:16:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But the government now says, Oh, you’re trained. No, we see it all the time with driver’s licenses. Look, people that get driver’s licenses they barely understand how to operate a vehicle. But when you remove the artificial environments that people think, Oh, because I got my little card, I’m good. No, when people are responsible as free individuals, they individually seek training and the biggest thing that I’ve noticed is that trainers that actually put on a good product, their classes go up.
01:22:16:08 – 01:22:33:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And I have a number of friends here in Florida that their certified instructors they put on stuff that goes far beyond the scope of what Florida requires. They get a line of people going around the block through their stuff but the trainers that are against constitutional carry and against open carry are the guys that do the bucket of sand.
01:22:34:25 – 01:22:47:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And like you said, Matt, it goes back to people being responsible I think everyone should have the right to open carry. I want to open carry. Sometimes it’s beneficial, sometimes it’s not. But I should have that option.
01:22:48:01 – 01:22:50:20
Announcer
Mm hmm. Yeah. Hey, do.
01:22:50:20 – 01:22:53:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You perceive I want to get your opinion on this.
01:22:53:10 – 01:22:53:19
Announcer
Okay.
01:22:53:24 – 01:23:16:00
Hank Strange (Host)
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01:23:16:10 – 01:23:17:16
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Discuss with us. Yeah.
01:23:17:26 – 01:23:36:19
Hank Strange (Host)
So yeah. Both By the way, can you guys actually like I don’t know, I know you can’t hear these guys, but you could probably hear me talking because I think my thing is not muted okay. So Matt, if you wanted to, if you wanted to, to, to go off here for a quick second, here’s what I was going to actually do.
01:23:36:25 – 01:23:56:26
Hank Strange (Host)
I was going to show you guys this. This is like from six years ago now. I can’t even believe that much time has gone by. This is when I got pulled over here in Florida driving. While Strange is the name of the video, it’s still on my YouTube channel. I got pulled over Easter Sunday, so that’s six years ago now.
01:23:59:13 – 01:24:00:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I remember that. I remember this.
01:24:00:28 – 01:24:23:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Video. Yeah. I was thinking about it when I when I when I was coming back to. Yeah, I was coming back from Tampa this Easter Sunday with Lola. And I was actually saying, you know, it was a Easter Sunday when I dropped my dad off at the airport in Tampa. And I was on the way back that I got pulled over, not in Tampa, but just, you know, in Gainesville, just outside of Gainesville.
01:24:23:22 – 01:24:32:10
Hank Strange (Host)
So, you know, just everything you guys were saying reminded me of that, I think. Did you did you need to take a quick break, Matt.
01:24:33:02 – 01:24:34:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
If I can. If you’re good. Yes.
01:24:34:18 – 01:24:38:08
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. Yes. Go for it. I’m sure that Louis is not going to.
01:24:38:08 – 01:24:42:03
Announcer
Have a problem tackle about anything while you’re gone.
01:24:42:03 – 01:24:44:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I’m still the smoking man here, so.
01:24:44:00 – 01:24:45:18
Announcer
Yeah, okay. Right.
01:24:47:28 – 01:25:03:28
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. So, Shelly, fungus. I missed that ex-military guy who used to come in the chats. He knew a ton about firearms and gear in general. I forget his handle. Question mark. Question mark? Yeah. Are you sure that’s not usually fungus? That’s K9.
01:25:05:11 – 01:25:39:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I see someone put cops don’t know the law, can’t drive and can’t shoot. And. God, I hate having to say this, but it’s good. From my personal experience, qualification with some officers was like seeing a five year old dragged to the dentist. They’d kick and scream because they didn’t want to do it. But, you know, it reminds me of of the classic excuse that we see from the gun grabbers is, oh, you know, we should the public shouldn’t have firearms because they can’t be trusted.
01:25:39:11 – 01:25:57:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We should trust the military and law enforcement with firearms. Now, mind you, as someone that took the oath into the Army and then became a cop, I can honestly say this. The majority of people in the military, they don’t deal with firearms. They do other work. They’re not not everyone in the military is arising out of everyone in the Army as an infantryman.
01:25:57:06 – 01:26:25:01
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Not everyone in the Navy is a Navy SEAL. You know, it’s most of them are cooks, mechanics, administrative you know, paper pushers, doctors, whatever. For them, qualifying with a firearm is the bare minimum and with law enforcement, the state requirement in Florida to qualify as prior to the passage of the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act under George Bush, it was once in your entire career.
01:26:25:01 – 01:27:00:03
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
That’s all the state required. You qualify with the firearm. Now it’s annually. And the state requirement is you have to shoot 40 rounds between the three yard line to the 15 yard line. That’s it and you know 40 rounds for me 40 rounds at 15 yards. It’s not I mean it’s actually only 12 rounds of 15 yards but it’s not even trying I mean got it three yards you don’t even have to aim you can literally just reach out and muzzle will touch paper basically at that point.
01:27:01:23 – 01:27:12:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But this idea that oh the military and law enforcement are heavily trained and they know how to handle know the majority is not. And I see in actually a number of.
01:27:13:03 – 01:27:14:04
Announcer
Of of.
01:27:14:17 – 01:27:25:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Private citizens that they attend better training they pay for it out of their own pocket and they’re safe and understand how to handle a firearm because they do it on their own accord.
01:27:25:15 – 01:27:44:02
Hank Strange (Host)
And they’re not also, you know, they’re not also aware of the laws in a lot of cases. So that thing Lolo is telling me to just talk about what happened there a little bit. So my dad was here visiting and I happened to take him to the airport to drop him off so he could fly back to New York City on Easter Sunday.
01:27:44:21 – 01:28:10:13
Hank Strange (Host)
And I was on the way back just driving through. And there’s this thing that happens outside of Gainesville on that road, which is like the main road running through Gainesville. It’s a state road 26. And there’s a I guess there’s like a black family that has this big party every year and, and you know, rappers come in all kinds of things, and it gets really crazy.
01:28:10:13 – 01:28:31:06
Hank Strange (Host)
I think there’s folks who go out and just rush the stores. You guys have seen that before. You know, this group of people that get together, rush to stores and all that. So the Alachua Sheriff’s Office, their way of dealing with this, is posting up on that road every year. And anyone who drives through there, this black, they pull them over.
01:28:31:07 – 01:28:32:23
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s basically what happened to me.
01:28:33:05 – 01:28:33:25
Announcer
And call it.
01:28:33:26 – 01:28:34:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Dwb.
01:28:35:05 – 01:28:53:17
Hank Strange (Host)
Right. Exactly. And I found out about it like after the after the fact of it happening. I found out about it because of a friend of mine that was actually part of ASO at the time. And he said, Yeah, man, you know, it sucks. I’m sorry it happened to you, but I know they did it to you because this is what they do.
01:28:53:20 – 01:29:15:25
Hank Strange (Host)
And actually, when I was driving through, I have a radar detector in my cars typically, and when I was going through there, I have never seen before or after that a radar detector goes so nuts, you know, it was just going crazy and I was driving really slow and I could see all these like police cars. They must’ve been like 35 police cars out there.
01:29:16:08 – 01:29:36:07
Hank Strange (Host)
And they had some, some like spotter cars even because I remember driving by these guys and they looked right in the car at me, and I wasn’t going fast. Or anything. And if anyone looks at that video, you’ll see that the guy, one of the guys who pulled me over was on the opposite side of the street. He had a young black woman pulled over on the opposite side.
01:29:36:14 – 01:29:56:22
Hank Strange (Host)
And when I went by, he jumped into his car, U-turn, and came after me. And you’ll see a car behind me and in front of me pulling over at the same time that they pulled me over and they told those guys, Now we don’t want you. We want that guy in the middle, you know? And then they wound up disarming me because they didn’t feel comfortable with me being armed.
01:29:57:01 – 01:30:10:17
Hank Strange (Host)
Then that police officer actually, even though he verified my CCW, you can hear him running after he verified my CCW running the serial numbers of my Glock. Wow.
01:30:10:17 – 01:30:15:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So that’s your on our end in 1983 because that could have been a big payday for you.
01:30:16:17 – 01:30:23:02
Announcer
Really wasn’t I guess what I’m talking about like a violation.
01:30:23:02 – 01:30:28:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Of several federal violation of federal civil rights in 1983 claims what’s often made against. Yeah.
01:30:28:21 – 01:30:49:22
Hank Strange (Host)
So so so that’s what happened and so a friend of mine who’s a white police officer that’s our white deputy that’s on that department told me you know you need to get that you need to get that and put it up and I really didn’t want to do it because you know I drive through here I don’t want to, I don’t want to get into anything with, you know, my local guys here and all that kind of stuff.
01:30:49:22 – 01:30:58:24
Hank Strange (Host)
And right where I live, my guys are awesome. I’m going to have my sheriff on the show here. Bobby Schultz is, is my local sheriff. And I’m going to have.
01:30:59:22 – 01:31:05:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You need to ask Bobby Schultz two questions. What is his stance on constitutional Carrie?
01:31:05:28 – 01:31:06:06
Announcer
Mm hmm.
01:31:06:18 – 01:31:12:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Oh, and did he individually endorse Wilton Simpson or was that the Florida Sheriffs Association?
01:31:12:15 – 01:31:35:19
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, okay. When when I’m having him on, I’ll I’ll I’ll make sure I get in touch with you. But here’s so here’s the thing. I got that. I put it up. And from the results of that is they actually retrain those guys because, like you said, they’re not supposed to if I’m not breaking the law and they verified my CCW, you know, they weren’t supposed to disarm me in the first place.
01:31:36:02 – 01:31:56:02
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, the funny thing is, in the beginning, there was like seven guys out there during most of this video, there’s about two guys of body armor and all that. And they felt uncomfortable with with me being armed really. It was that one guy. The other guy was a police officer that he used to live in New York, and he had like 00 problems with me.
01:31:56:02 – 01:32:11:11
Hank Strange (Host)
Even the other guy kept saying Do you have any more weapons? And I was like, Dude, I got a bunch of knives on me. You know, I got all kinds of stuff. And the guy who was standing right there next to me was like, just don’t like it. As long as you don’t go for anything, you’re fine. You don’t have to, like, give that up.
01:32:11:18 – 01:32:27:23
Hank Strange (Host)
So they got retrained and they stopped doing that thing. So that’s the good thing. I think that that came out of that whole thing, although I didn’t want to do it. My question I was going to ask Matt, since we have him on here, U.S. Law Shield, you know, you guys don’t do anything in a case like that, right?
01:32:27:23 – 01:32:44:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Because I didn’t really get arrested or anything. You don’t necessarily you know, so let’s say if one of your members ran into a situation like that and felt like his rights were violated, do you guys get involved in that or only if they arrested or catch charges, etc.?
01:32:44:09 – 01:33:06:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I think a lot of it depends on obviously the circumstances. And I’ll you know, full full disclosure, I represent the folks that they say, all right, this is our member. You need to represent them. Right. That’s what they that’s what they pay me to do. Um, they do have different types of coverage in different states. One of the things that we have in Georgia is gun owner identity theft coverage.
01:33:07:21 – 01:33:16:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I have assisted individuals before whose firearms have been unlocked are unlawfully or impermissibly retained by law enforcement I did one of those recently.
01:33:17:03 – 01:33:18:28
Announcer
Okay. Okay. So, you know.
01:33:19:08 – 01:33:37:28
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Certain, certain things like that. Yes. Some things they’ll say, no, absolutely not. You know, you have to have been in the process of protecting yourself or it has to be one of the, you know, the covered. But I mean, by and large, if you’re a U.S. lawsuit member and you’ve got a trouble with a firearm, that’s what we’re here for.
01:33:37:28 – 01:33:59:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
That’s what you know, that’s what they pay me to assist with. They don’t say no very often. I’ll tell you that. I got a lot of cases of useless help. But I’ve also found to kind of the point that that Louis was making earlier is folks who carry lawfully who are trained. And in Georgia, we don’t have any carry requirements or any training requirements for carry.
01:34:00:06 – 01:34:31:25
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
We don’t have any carry requirements anymore. We didn’t have to take a class. And for a lot of reasons, I was one of the reasons. But for a lot of years, South Carolina would not grant Georgia weapons carry license holders, reciprocity because we didn’t have a training component. And finally they just gave up on that. But what I have found is that U.S. law shield members tend to be better informed about the law, obviously because of their handsome lawyers thank you, folks donations.
01:34:33:17 – 01:34:56:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
But they know better how to communicate with law enforcement, the things that they should say, the things they don’t have to say, the things that they can do to make those you know, you know, interaction with law enforcement is it’s just a part of life. And they know my perspective on it, which is don’t say anything if you don’t have to.
01:34:57:18 – 01:35:20:27
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I’ve done both sides of it. I’ve handed the weapons carry license out the door with my firearm, with my driver’s license. And I did this over in a town locally that have motorcycle units. You know, the man with no eyes, sunglasses and the big, you know, the big boots and walked up to my truck and he says, why are you hand me your weapons, carry license?
01:35:21:06 – 01:35:38:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I said, Well, there’s a 45 in the center console. There’s an ASP button in the glove box, and I’m pretty sure there’s a Taser in the door panel. And he take a step back, he goes, Why do you have so many weapons? And I said, Well, because I used to work in the Fulton County DA’s office he said, Have a nice day.
01:35:38:29 – 01:35:42:23
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Why? Here’s my question. Why do you have a asked button?
01:35:44:18 – 01:35:45:12
Announcer
At the time.
01:35:45:12 – 01:35:47:28
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I had an ass button because I was.
01:35:48:01 – 01:35:49:21
Announcer
The name is Cracking Me Up. Sorry.
01:35:50:29 – 01:35:53:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
A.S.A.P.. Hey, come on, dude.
01:35:55:00 – 01:35:59:11
Announcer
Come on. I thought we got past that right now, but I will tell you the story.
01:35:59:17 – 01:36:19:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
The reason I had a baton is, is unfortunately, there was a member of the DEA staff who may have had a bit of an M.D. in the office negligent discharge. And so the DEA said no more guns. And so we all started carrying batons. And it was not me. It was before my time. I got to find that the.
01:36:19:13 – 01:36:19:22
Announcer
Right.
01:36:20:12 – 01:36:21:13
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yes around here somewhere.
01:36:21:14 – 01:36:25:08
Hank Strange (Host)
Listen, everyone should have asked Barton. I like that, you know, asp.
01:36:25:09 – 01:36:26:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I still have.
01:36:26:21 – 01:36:27:14
Hank Strange (Host)
Oh, okay. Yeah.
01:36:27:14 – 01:36:28:28
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Telescoping batons.
01:36:29:06 – 01:36:29:22
Announcer
Oh, okay.
01:36:29:23 – 01:36:34:21
Hank Strange (Host)
Better I invented something called AC missiles.
01:36:34:21 – 01:36:36:00
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I still have one.
01:36:37:06 – 01:36:42:02
Hank Strange (Host)
Good go for it, Louis. I’m sure Lola, right now, I don’t.
01:36:42:02 – 01:36:42:28
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Think you invented that.
01:36:43:29 – 01:36:44:16
Announcer
And Lola.
01:36:44:16 – 01:36:45:13
Hank Strange (Host)
Saying do not.
01:36:46:02 – 01:36:53:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Use that. I think what a good. You didn’t invent that. What invented that was you had some bad burritos one night that.
01:36:54:01 – 01:36:54:07
Announcer
Yeah.
01:36:55:00 – 01:36:55:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I think.
01:36:56:06 – 01:36:57:04
Announcer
It’s that.
01:36:57:04 – 01:36:58:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Hour of the show.
01:36:58:01 – 01:36:58:16
Announcer
Apparently.
01:36:59:07 – 01:36:59:15
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah.
01:36:59:16 – 01:37:07:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We’re getting some interesting factoid asked the company. They didn’t originally make batons. They made firearms.
01:37:07:19 – 01:37:10:08
Announcer
The US weird which is what.
01:37:10:09 – 01:37:11:21
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Kind of permit handguns.
01:37:12:12 – 01:37:42:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They they took Smith and Wesson model 39 which was the first night double action nine millimeter adopted by any law enforcement agency in the US the Illinois State Police adopted back in the 1960s. But they would take Smith and Wesson model 39. These were about you know give or take the size of a 1911 single stacked nine millimeter and they would chop them back, they would chop down the the grip, the grip frame and the barrels and make them into compact guns in an area where you didn’t have a single stack compact.
01:37:42:27 – 01:38:17:18
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Nine mm. And they were known back in the day because they were highly expensive. But you would have a couple of reports that CIA would be issuing them out of the Navy SEALs in Vietnam. Would be issuing them out. And they were a very high dollar item. Back to this day on the collector circuits. They’re very expensive, but they left that and went into making police the times and it’s it’s interesting how they left that but guns is what got them into the law enforcement market.
01:38:18:00 – 01:38:19:26
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
They probably made a lot more money with the times.
01:38:20:16 – 01:38:44:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah. Oh they did also they didn’t have to buy products from Smith Wesson to cut down modify it was just, hey, we’re going to get aluminum and steel tubing. There you go. But yeah, okay I still have a button still carry that. I still have a 24 button for the good old days. But yeah, yeah, it was Doritos that made your, your ASP, whatever you.
01:38:44:13 – 01:38:46:28
Announcer
Called it, you know, that’s.
01:38:47:26 – 01:39:16:29
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Since you want to know, since you want to know basically. And actually we’re very close to to what? To what my idea was where that’s actually being implemented in the Ukraine right now. But basically, my idea is we you know, we have these bad actors out in the world, right? So instead of like putting, you know, boots on the ground and spending all the money that it takes to have the support system for that, etc. I was like, why don’t we just invent missiles that we program?
01:39:17:07 – 01:39:25:21
Hank Strange (Host)
And they go they go right up to these guys and, you know, go right up the ass and blow these guys up right as missiles.
01:39:26:16 – 01:39:26:28
Announcer
Yeah.
01:39:27:16 – 01:39:28:22
Hank Strange (Host)
I follow.
01:39:28:22 – 01:39:34:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
The Russian hackers are figuring out that Javelin is the best distributor in the world right now.
01:39:36:03 – 01:39:44:15
Hank Strange (Host)
Well, have you seen there’s these are drones now that they’re using in the Ukraine, that the drones are basically suicide drones. So they’ll.
01:39:44:15 – 01:39:44:26
Announcer
Launch.
01:39:45:04 – 01:39:46:29
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Turkish drones that they’re using, right?
01:39:47:09 – 01:39:47:19
Announcer
Yeah.
01:39:47:19 – 01:39:48:15
Hank Strange (Host)
Is it Turkish?
01:39:49:09 – 01:39:49:29
Announcer
Yeah. I think.
01:39:49:29 – 01:39:50:13
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
What it is.
01:39:50:13 – 01:39:56:15
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
They’re like t something drones from Turkey and they’re using them with deadly efficiency. I know that.
01:39:56:15 – 01:39:56:29
Announcer
Oh, yeah.
01:39:56:29 – 01:39:59:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Because they really smell the swarm and they just.
01:40:00:18 – 01:40:22:26
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, well, and there’s some of them that are like, you know, so this thing will just key in on you, man. It’s too late for you to do anything about it. So, you know, the only improvement they need to do is add the, you know, the the but I can’t say it any other way. I’m sorry. The ass aspect of it, you know, that’s what I should be locked into, man.
01:40:23:06 – 01:40:33:14
Hank Strange (Host)
That’s what we need to see. I think. I think they will get more funding if they were just kill killed out. Okay. Before Lola really says, like, okay, so you had a lawyer from.
01:40:33:25 – 01:40:37:22
Announcer
US Law Shield on the show, and this is what you decided.
01:40:37:27 – 01:40:39:11
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And this is where we wound up.
01:40:39:13 – 01:40:41:29
Announcer
Yeah. This is what you decide. This is literally.
01:40:41:29 – 01:40:43:13
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
The end of the Internet.
01:40:43:16 – 01:40:44:20
Hank Strange (Host)
Will never get.
01:40:44:20 – 01:40:47:01
Announcer
Us lawsuit back on the show again.
01:40:47:02 – 01:40:49:18
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
No, no, I’m a dead man. Dead man.
01:40:49:27 – 01:40:50:13
Announcer
Oh, really?
01:40:53:02 – 01:40:54:09
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. So listen.
01:40:54:10 – 01:40:57:10
Announcer
Oh, go ahead and go for to.
01:40:57:10 – 01:40:59:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Bring it back to something that is not crazy.
01:40:59:20 – 01:41:00:02
Announcer
Okay.
01:41:00:14 – 01:41:29:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Now, you mentioned Ukraine earlier how they restricted their firearm rights. What’s interesting is Ukraine does have a Second Amendment for not a Second Amendment organization, but a pro-gun rights organization. And they’ve actually been lobbying heavy heavily, even right before the invasion, they were pushing for less restrictions on their gun laws. And Ukraine was I know a gentleman that has very close ties to Ukraine, and he basically informed me that.
01:41:29:06 – 01:41:51:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Right. That prior to the invasion you could own. Right. So you could own an air. 15. You could own a semi, you know, an AK 47, an AK 74, and you could even own suppressors. What was very heavily restricted there was either transporting them or owning a handgun. Now, before the invasion, the Ukrainian parliament removed the restriction on transportation of longer.
01:41:51:24 – 01:42:14:19
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It basically was like, hey, look, if you legally on a long gun, you can legally transport. It’s not an issue. So even the Ukrainian government and of course the Ukrainian population is fully understanding the scope of how an armed society is a polite society. And of course even further, how you could make it to where the U.S. work is squeezed because the Russians are figuring that out now.
01:42:15:11 – 01:42:28:05
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, they’re they’re hitting a country where the entire population is basically either armed with firearms IEDs, drones, javelin missiles. It’s it’s the Russian troops.
01:42:28:05 – 01:42:33:20
Announcer
And that’s what you’re asking missiles. Oh, yeah.
01:42:34:08 – 01:42:35:20
Hank Strange (Host)
Go. It was their quest. There was a.
01:42:35:20 – 01:42:40:14
Announcer
Question in there for Matt. I’m just sorry. I could it was this that was the sounds.
01:42:40:14 – 01:42:40:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Of.
01:42:40:16 – 01:42:52:19
Announcer
Rhetorical what was the question in the 30 seconds we have left? Yeah. Bluest ended up with a gun and more.
01:42:53:12 – 01:43:12:22
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
In the end, I’ll just wrap it up by saying this. Even anti-gun countries in Europe are figuring out that an armed populace is safe. You have Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. We’re creating these defense clubs where basically people could own their service rifles at home it’s it’s groundbreaking.
01:43:13:11 – 01:43:14:12
Announcer
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Hank Strange (Host)
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01:43:49:21 – 01:44:04:01
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01:44:04:01 – 01:44:39:15
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It. You know, Lewis is absolutely right. I read an article not long ago about the Estonian Defense League. It’s an all volunteer defense league that trains with military and paramilitary groups. They take all their body armor, they take their rifles home, and they train in their local districts the notion being that when not if, but when they are invaded by Russia, that they have a unique knowledge and the unique experience of being in that particular area.
01:44:39:15 – 01:45:03:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
This is experience that these Russians don’t have. And, you know, we’re all very concerned, obviously, and we want to assist the Ukrainians. But there are a lot of folks out there, I think, that need our help, too. And that’d be a great way to get started. For if you want to really get involved. I mean, believe me, the U.S., I think, has the Ukraine covered with what we’re sending over there right now.
01:45:03:13 – 01:45:12:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
If you want to get involved look at the Estonian Defense League. Yeah, that stuff is amazing. And that’s what I think. That’s what we should all be about.
01:45:12:26 – 01:45:19:06
Hank Strange (Host)
So I’ll let you get something in here. Lewis. I just wanted to say, man, see this past some Parabellum.
01:45:19:21 – 01:45:20:04
Announcer
So.
01:45:20:13 – 01:45:29:02
Hank Strange (Host)
Matt, you’re all you. So, you know, you speak the language of the lawyers. If you seek peace, prepare for war is right.
01:45:29:13 – 01:45:29:20
Announcer
Right.
01:45:30:02 – 01:45:33:08
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, and Europe has got to deal with that. Go ahead, Lewis.
01:45:34:06 – 01:45:58:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Yeah. You know, the Estonian Defense League, it actually traces its history a number of countries in the Baltic area did it. Finland had the the civil guard prior to World War Two, which was very similar these were this was a private club that people joined showing that they were anti socialist, anti-communist. They were they had their own service rifles.
01:45:58:14 – 01:46:27:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They took them home and they were basically the reserves for the Finnish army. And as everyone knows, historically, the Finns bled the Russians dry when Russia invaded them in 39 and 1940 the Estonians have learned from that. Lithuania, Latvia has learned from that. Switzerland has been a model of that. Historically speaking. They weren’t invaded during World War Two because the Germans had a plan to invade them.
01:46:27:09 – 01:46:46:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And the sole reason why was the Swiss were going to make it to where every inch of Swiss soil the Germans conquered was going to be paid with German blood. They were going to make it to where the Jews wasn’t, wasn’t worth the squeeze. And the Germans were like, You know what, it ain’t worth it. An armed society does.
01:46:46:11 – 01:47:23:14
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
That is yes. Again, you know, and everyone goes, Oh, well, our Constitution, our Second Amendment, is outdated. It’s no longer related. It’s not like, you know, we’re going to have the King of England come here and invade. That doesn’t matter. You could even look into Mexico right now. You have the in Spanish, the utter defense. Yes. The the the Otto defense organizations, which are basically local communities, telling the the Mexican federal government, screw you, we’re going to arm ourselves with things that you say we can’t because Mexico actually has a right to keep and bear arms in their constitution.
01:47:23:14 – 01:47:44:21
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But it’s heavily redacted and abused. But the Mexican people have basically said, screw you, and they’re running around with their case they’re running around. They are running around handguns and they’re fighting back the cartels where the police and the military aren’t, because the police and military in Mexico, as we all know, are corrupt. And the people are rising up and saying enough is enough.
01:47:44:21 – 01:48:17:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And if you go back into Mexican history during the Mexican revolution in the early 1900s afterwards, you had a socialist government take over and they went after Catholicism, they went after religion, and you had a the the religious population of Mexico, they the very rifles they used to overthrow a dictatorial government, they brought those rifles back out of the hiding spot, and they fought the Mexican government to a standstill.
01:48:18:00 – 01:48:45:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Mind you, the Mexican government was literally killing priests and nuns during the late 19 tens in the early 1920s. And there were hanging people from telegraph poles that were practicing their religion open. And these people fought the Mexican military to a standstill to where the Mexican government had to realize either we’re going to have another revolution or we have to respect the people’s religious rights.
01:48:45:29 – 01:48:57:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Again, an armed society does it. As my uncle said, a disarmed people are slaves to the state. You’ve never seen an armed population be someone else’s slaves. Never.
01:48:57:29 – 01:49:13:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. Well said. Matt, because I know in this last section here I want to get into a couple of things. One of the things I’m kind of like switching gears here a little bit, but I want to make sure I get this in. Now, obviously, everyone knows I’ve gotten all up in van life.
01:49:14:02 – 01:49:15:17
Announcer
Right? You know.
01:49:16:22 – 01:49:34:17
Hank Strange (Host)
Hashtag van life going on there. I actually took a picture before I came in here just so I could show you guys. This is what this was like when the sun was still up. But this is what I’m sitting in right now for transit night. This is what I’m saying is in the podcast out there for folks out there.
01:49:34:24 – 01:49:54:23
Hank Strange (Host)
And one of the things that’s one of the questions I’ve come across here and you know, Louis, you can jump in here, too, on this. So people ask me all the time because they realize that I’m a gun guy. I’m doing the van life thing, defending yourself while you’re traveling around the country. Okay. Can you talk to that a little bit?
01:49:56:10 – 01:50:22:05
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, so there’s carry across the country and then there’s a fence across the country. Every state has different laws, and the laws of the state are separate from the laws of the federal government. Excuse me. So in Georgia, for instance, your van could be either your vehicle or your home and your home your car and your place of business are all considered your habitation in Georgia.
01:50:23:03 – 01:50:47:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Previously, you could carry there without a license. Remember, that’s not an issue anymore. Things to constitutional, carry. But being in your home, in your car and your place of business gives you more expansive ability to protect yourself under the law. It’s defense of habitation. It’s the Castle Doctrine codified into Georgia law right now. What’s law in Georgia? Obviously not law.
01:50:47:03 – 01:51:12:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
In Florida. What’s law in Florida? Not law in Michigan. It Lewis can talk to some of this to you know back in 1986 some say the only mistake that Ronald Reagan ever made was signing the the ban on assault weapons you know you can’t own or the ban on to your title three firearms machine guns anything that’s made after you know.
01:51:13:04 – 01:51:15:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
There is the 86 machine gun ban that any machines.
01:51:16:14 – 01:51:17:03
Announcer
The 86.
01:51:17:03 – 01:51:17:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Machine guns.
01:51:17:17 – 01:51:19:22
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Cannot be legally sold to civilian populace.
01:51:20:13 – 01:52:00:28
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right. So there’s another part of that law though that not a lot of people know about it’s the Firearm Owners Protection Act which was meant to keep the ATF out of the hand out of the day. The day to day business of most FFL is the ATF had begun to overreach. Part of that law says that if you are legal to possess a firearm in the state where you begin your travel and you are legal to possess a firearm in the state where you end your travel, you are legal under federal law to travel in any other state, to get from point A to point B, if you take that firearm, separate the magazine from the
01:52:00:28 – 01:52:20:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
firearm separate the ammo from the magazine, put the firearm in a locked case and make it inaccessible from the passenger compartment of the vehicle. And you can’t do that in a sprinter like you’ve got. So it’s just got to be out of reach of the of the driver. And if you do that, you can travel from Georgia to Maine.
01:52:20:21 – 01:52:51:27
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right because you as long as you’re traveling and you can go through Washington, DC, Virginia, which no longer has, you know, any jurisdiction in Virginia, can make its own laws. They no longer have a preemption doctrine. You could travel through New York and New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, all these places that are inimical to gun rights. Right. As long as you’re traveling, you could go from Georgia to Maine because Maine I don’t even think Maine has weapons carry licenses anymore.
01:52:51:27 – 01:52:53:17
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
It’s just constitutional carry.
01:52:54:07 – 01:52:56:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont are constitutional here.
01:52:57:03 – 01:53:10:04
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Right. So here’s the issue that you get into, that the let’s say you and Lola stop in New Jersey and you got to get gas. Well, if you’ve ever gotten gas in New Jersey, you know, there’s one thing in New Jersey you cannot do when you stop to get gas.
01:53:10:04 – 01:53:11:06
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. You can’t pump it.
01:53:12:02 – 01:53:12:11
Announcer
You can’t.
01:53:12:14 – 01:53:13:23
Hank Strange (Host)
I used to live in New Jersey.
01:53:14:24 – 01:53:16:14
Announcer
Right. Poppy Harlow, you know.
01:53:16:24 – 01:53:35:19
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
You can’t popular gas. You leave the van, you go to the bathroom, guy, pump your gas. Looking around, sees where one of your voltaic safes is left from under the seat. Right. Because of New Jersey State Police. New Jersey State Police show up to see what you got in the safe while there’s a firearm in there. Well, okay.
01:53:35:19 – 01:53:54:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
What kind of firearm is it? Well, you know, everything’s okay. I’m traveling under the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act. You’re not really traveling right now. You’re stopped. Well, I just had to stop to get gas, but it’s a handgun. Okay? It’s a handgun. How many rounds? The magazine. How 15. Okay, that’s a film. Mm hmm. New Jersey doesn’t care about.
01:53:56:00 – 01:54:17:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
About the Firearm Owners Protection Act. I New Jersey cares that they feel like they’ve done the right thing in New Jersey. Say police feel like they’ve done the right thing. So making a long point. Obviously, I’m getting paid by the word here. You you absolutely can carry federally and state to state. You need to know the laws in every state that you travel.
01:54:17:00 – 01:54:27:15
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I think I know that you guys do that. One of the advantages of U.S. law shield is they can provide you with that information and that protection in every state that you that you travel to. I know all those lawyers are good lawyers, right?
01:54:27:15 – 01:54:37:00
Hank Strange (Host)
I think that U.S. Law Shield has an app in regards to that. There’s some other apps as well, if people want to know. But I think U.S. Law Shield does have an app in that regards. Right.
01:54:37:10 – 01:54:57:16
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I think so. I think you’re right. Okay. But that’s a point. It gets back to that principle versus practical. You’re doing everything right. Stay in New Jersey doesn’t care. You need to have a plan in place for when things like that do happen. And I happen to know that the U.S. law shield attorney in New Jersey is a absolute bulldog.
01:54:57:16 – 01:55:06:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So you’re going to be okay. But I know that stuff that you guys have to I mean, you probably spend a lot of time thinking about that when you to do road, right? Yeah.
01:55:06:07 – 01:55:25:05
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, I do. And people ask me about it, you know, should they carry a rifle? Should they carry a handgun? You know, what about suppressors and this thing in that they I try to keep it simple for the very reason of what you’re saying, but still have something on me. I think Louis wanted to make a point. Go ahead, Louis.
01:55:26:12 – 01:55:48:06
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You have to reiterate the Firearm Owners Protection Act. It has, as you brought up it, the travel issue versus not travel. There was two cases you had. One where a gentleman was moving a collection from either Maine or New Hampshire down somewhere in the South. He stopped in in New Jersey was literally he was exhausted, you know, for his own safety.
01:55:48:06 – 01:56:09:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He pulled over, took a nap in his car. New Jersey officer saw him, saw a firearm case in the backseat of the car. I asked him what was going on, arresting him. That’s one of the issues you have to drive through. You cannot stop for gas. You can’t stop food. You can’t stop for a break. Even if there’s inclement weather, you can’t stop.
01:56:09:24 – 01:56:35:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
But the more important thing is airliners. So let’s say I’m flying from Miami to go on a hunting trip in Boise, Idaho, or somewhere in Montana, whatever. Let’s say due to weather, the flights diverted to New Jersey plane, land. The airliner says, hey, look, we’re you know, here’s your check in luggage. We’re going to put you in a hotel overnight, come back check your luggage in.
01:56:35:20 – 01:56:37:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Well, guess what? That actually happened to an individual.
01:56:37:26 – 01:56:38:12
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, I think.
01:56:38:12 – 01:56:38:29
Announcer
A former.
01:56:40:10 – 01:56:58:12
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Airline gave him his luggage. I forget the full scope of of the the individual. But the end result was plane was diverted to either New Jersey in New York. He got off the plane. They gave him his luggage. He went back and did everything by the book, check his luggage and again. And he was arrested on the spot.
01:56:58:29 – 01:57:24:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Now, it went up to this. I forget if it went to the Supreme Court or went up to a federal district court. But in the end, the court ruled that SOPA didn’t even apply as an administrative as an affirmative defense. In that regard because he stopped traveling. So in theory, if that happened, what you immediately have to do is get your luggage, jump in a rental car and get the hell out.
01:57:24:12 – 01:57:47:29
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You have to continue traveling. And this is this is something that ticks me off personally because I’m personally covered under the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act if I qualify annually, I could carry in all 50 states and territories. Yet my wife, who’s just as responsible and safe as I can assure me, she can’t and it’s all because I had I carried a piece of skin in my wallet for over ten years.
01:57:48:08 – 01:57:49:15
Announcer
Yeah. And she’s also.
01:57:49:15 – 01:57:51:14
Hank Strange (Host)
Way better looking than you, even though you.
01:57:51:14 – 01:57:53:29
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Know, you. Oh, it’s not you. I’m not going.
01:57:54:00 – 01:57:58:00
Announcer
To but that’s okay. So the.
01:57:58:00 – 01:57:58:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Key is that.
01:57:59:01 – 01:58:26:12
Hank Strange (Host)
The key to this I’m getting here is that if you know, you’re in one of these states that’s, you know, very anti-gun, right? Or, you know, there’s specific laws against what you’re doing here. You need to keep moving through that state, right? So maybe before that state makes sure you’re full of gas, you have enough gas to get out of that state, you know, or be or if you I guess if you know, I mean, that’s inevitable, you might have to stop and do something, but keep moving through the state is what you’re saying.
01:58:27:01 – 01:58:43:09
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Keep keep moving through the state. And the other thing is look at the local state laws like Illinois, for example. Illinois doesn’t recognize any out-of-state permit for carry, but they wrote an interesting caveat into their law. If you have an out-of-state permit, you can keep the farm in your vehicle.
01:58:45:09 – 01:59:02:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
So at least if you’re driving through Illinois. So let’s say you get you know, you’re going from Indiana to Wisconsin or whatever. I don’t know as long at least if you’re doing that you know, there’s a little carve out for you if you have an out-of-state for so you need to look. But if you go to California, they don’t recognize it.
01:59:02:17 – 01:59:27:11
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You go to New York, they don’t recognize that you got a New Jersey, they don’t recognize any permit. So you need to have your due diligence. And one of the best things is it sucks, but plan your route accordingly. If you could avoid a place like that, do it. And if you can’t look for the shortest route to get the health through and like you said, stop and get gas if you’re tired rest before you cross into that jurisdiction.
01:59:27:26 – 01:59:32:02
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
And if you’re flying, you really have to plan a backup just in case.
01:59:32:21 – 01:59:36:25
Hank Strange (Host)
Okay. Did you Matt, did you want to jump back in here on that?
01:59:37:20 – 02:00:13:08
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
No, I think he’s absolutely right. You know, what I tell folks is it goes back to you having to be the bigger the thinker, having to be the adult in these conversations. And unfortunately, choices of law like this require us to make harder choices that we shouldn’t have to make. You know, if if it means if my kids are with me and this means me being separated from my kids in New York, I may decide not to carry to protect myself and my family because I don’t want to run the risk of being delayed and and something like this happen.
02:00:13:08 – 02:00:20:00
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And there’s no need for us to have to make these decisions. Yeah. You know, but it is what it is. You know, you change it.
02:00:20:16 – 02:00:47:01
Hank Strange (Host)
Yes, it is. And, you know, there’s been instances where if I knew I was going to spend time in the state like New York, for example, I you know, I may stop in a state or I have a friend that lives in that state, and it’s it’s legal for me to do it. And I’ll leave my stuff with that person, you know, and then and then go into the state just to, you know, not get into a situation where I’m in a state like New York and I get in trouble.
02:00:47:01 – 02:01:09:20
Hank Strange (Host)
When the last time I was in New York, there was a story that people were telling me about this. These two brothers who I think they were in Georgia and they sold jewelry and they were going through they went to New York, they stayed in a hotel you know, the one brother had a permit in in Georgia. He took his gun to New York and put it in the hotel safe.
02:01:10:02 – 02:01:16:05
Hank Strange (Host)
But the maid somehow got into that safe and then called the cops. And he got he got locked up over that.
02:01:16:23 – 02:01:17:07
Announcer
So.
02:01:18:02 – 02:01:45:28
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, it’s not it’s not cool. And obviously, I’m not a lawyer. I would say to people, don’t volunteer information that you don’t have to another situation to happen to a friend of mine that, you know, was actually a combat veteran. He was doing Uber and he was in Connecticut. And he drove he took a passenger from Connecticut into New York, dropped him off in Harlem and then got pulled over by the cops because he was driving while white in Harlem.
02:01:47:23 – 02:02:07:13
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, but then he voluntarily told them that he had a gun in his bag. You know, it’s like one of those, you know, expedition type backpacks the cops couldn’t even find it. You know, they had the bag and they couldn’t even find it. And then he gave it to them and he got arrested. I think he finally beat the charges, but they never gave him his Glock back.
02:02:07:13 – 02:02:11:25
Hank Strange (Host)
And I was like, why did you even tell these guys anything? So I don’t know what you to say about that.
02:02:12:21 – 02:02:35:26
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
A good friend of mine, John Murphy of SPF training, an excellent firearm trainer, he always puts this in his training classes. Shut the F up, don’t talk. That’s literally one of his you know, he goes over tactical shooting, but he goes over the legal aspects. Shut the F up. Don’t talk. Don’t volunteer information if you don’t have to, because all you do is you dig yourself in that hole.
02:02:36:12 – 02:02:37:16
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah. You know what happens.
02:02:37:16 – 02:02:40:18
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
When everybody has the right to remain silent? Few people have the ability.
02:02:40:23 – 02:02:43:22
Hank Strange (Host)
Yes, absolutely. You know what police officers do when they get in trouble?
02:02:45:02 – 02:02:46:01
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I call my unit right?
02:02:46:10 – 02:02:50:22
Announcer
Yeah. They don’t talk. They don’t talk to you. They don’t talk.
02:02:51:17 – 02:02:57:10
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
I was I paid my PBA union dues for one reason and one reason all to have a lawyer represent me.
02:02:58:10 – 02:03:17:25
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, I would just I don’t know if you feel like we got it. It’s going to be a little bit more complicated. Than this. And I might have to really sit down and figure out a way to get a better conversation going on this particular thing, because people ask about this all the time. Not just folks who are part of Van Life.
02:03:17:25 – 02:03:41:24
Hank Strange (Host)
You know, we’re all traveling around the country in lots of different ways. And yeah, you know, I think that there’s a couple of things in here that you need to think about, think about where you’re going, you know, how you’re how you’re traveling. Like Louis said, if you get if you’re flying and you declare it, but you get into trouble, you better have a backup plan if you wind up in New York or New Jersey or even California for that matter, who knows what could happen there.
02:03:42:00 – 02:04:07:11
Hank Strange (Host)
So here’s the thing. We’re going to take one more break. We’re going to come back here and we’re going to start wrapping up the show. So that’s going to happen right now. I’m actually seeing the break. We wouldn’t be able to keep the Who move my Freedom podcast going without the support of manufacturers like Safety Harbor Firearms, as CHF is a quintessential family owned small business, totally representative of the American Dream.
02:04:07:11 – 02:04:38:27
Hank Strange (Host)
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02:04:38:27 – 02:04:46:01
Hank Strange (Host)
But Matt, go ahead and tell the folks about the podcasts and you know, other places they can find you. Get in touch with you here while I pull that.
02:04:46:23 – 02:05:08:14
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Well, we’ve been so busy lately that we haven’t done a lot of them. Fortunately, the phone’s been ringing off the hook. We have the five, five, six dot com, which is something that we do from time to time. There we are. Safety laws and training for gun owners. Excuse me, and then, of course, we have Georgia Gun Lawyers, which is my website.
02:05:08:14 – 02:05:12:22
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
And I also may have written a book.
02:05:13:18 – 02:05:14:18
Announcer
There you go. Boom.
02:05:15:11 – 02:05:28:07
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Yeah. So that’s second edition. And I actually told Governor Kent last week, I said, hey, thanks for signing that bill. Thanks for all the extra work. I’ve got to go back and write that whole damn book again. And he smiled politely and kept.
02:05:28:07 – 02:05:28:22
Announcer
Walking.
02:05:29:20 – 02:05:33:25
Hank Strange (Host)
So bad, you know, like a college professor band, you can make people keep buying those books.
02:05:33:28 – 02:06:01:15
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Oh, man. I thought, Hey, listen, if anybody out there needs an internship and how to rewrite a book, please call me Myra. And, you know, hopefully your rates are favorable. So we do I do a lot of seminar training of U.S. Law Shield. And, you know, we do actually do a lot of part and work as well, helping people get their rights back and obviously protected folks who who really need good self-defense, expertize income stuff.
02:06:01:16 – 02:06:02:10
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So. That’s right.
02:06:02:24 – 02:06:08:14
Hank Strange (Host)
So if anyone’s looking at this and they maybe want to get in touch with you or follow you somewhere on social media, how do they do it?
02:06:10:27 – 02:06:11:23
Hank Strange (Host)
Bam. There you go.
02:06:12:16 – 02:06:25:04
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
There you go, George. Gun laws dot com. And you can find this on Facebook at Georgia gun lawyer’s Instagram and then if they want to come to a class boom, look at that awesome.
02:06:25:17 – 02:06:26:24
Announcer
Part and it’s useless, you know?
02:06:27:19 – 02:06:29:09
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Hey, man, I got a stream deck just like.
02:06:29:09 – 02:06:30:23
Announcer
You do all.
02:06:31:26 – 02:06:34:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Magic finger punches button. Yeah.
02:06:34:20 – 02:06:38:27
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, I heard you. You use E Cam and all that kind of stuff too. So I.
02:06:38:27 – 02:06:41:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Do. Yeah, me speak good techie.
02:06:41:08 – 02:06:45:22
Announcer
Yeah. Or someone does it for you. Okay. I don’t know. Yeah, that’s true.
02:06:46:13 – 02:06:49:01
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
I do surround myself with bright individual right?
02:06:49:01 – 02:07:00:05
Hank Strange (Host)
Right. Okay. And then we’re we’ll go to Lewis. Lewis for the folks out there who are watching this, and they want to find out more from you, communicate with you, etc.. How would you suggest those folks go about that?
02:07:01:06 – 02:07:21:15
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
Best way to do it? Go to gun owners dot org slash join just 25 bucks here to join joy but we have I can’t fully unveil it but we have some exciting things coming out and geo in terms of communications and updates and notifications that it’s going to be very important for you guys and your listeners and your watchers and your viewers.
02:07:22:17 – 02:07:44:08
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
It’s going to be very beneficial for them. So as the state director I cover Florida I also cover outreach in Puerto Rico. In the U.S. Virgin Islands of Gila is truly national. We don’t just cover, you know, the gun friendly states. We cover the country but yeah, again, if people want to keep track of what’s going on, they could go to gun owners dot org.
02:07:45:02 – 02:08:18:04
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
They can see our national laws and our state level alerts on the Florida Directory site. Cover everything in Florida. You’ll see my alerts there. That’s the best way to get in touch with me is through GEO. But I always ask your callers, like your callers, your your fans and your viewers to always whether you’re in Florida or you’re out of Florida, call Governor DeSantis at 8507179337 and tell him that you want a constitutional carry special session to be called.
02:08:18:22 – 02:08:43:24
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
He’s already done it for congressional redistricting. He’s expanded it to cover the issue with Disney, and he’s called another one for insurance reform. We need constitutional care in Florida. If you’re a Florida resident, you have tremendous power. But if you’re outside of Florida, you even have more power because guess what? Even though Representative David Smith thinks international force are what matter, you matter.
02:08:43:24 – 02:09:20:27
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We had 122 million people visit Florida. 118 million of them. We’re Americans. If you call the governor’s office and you tell him as a tourist, as someone outside of Florida, you will visit Florida more often if we ask constitutional, carry, you could help us become the 26th state in the Union to get constitutional. carry, I’m serious. I’m serious. As a heart attack, as the state director of Florida, I’m asking you guys outside of Florida to help because I lend whatever effort I can to the issues outside of Florida.
02:09:21:02 – 02:09:32:23
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
We are all in it together. And as you know, I always end it with our national motto is the pluribus unum out of many one, we’re all in this together, folks. I can’t do it without you.
02:09:33:23 – 02:09:56:26
Hank Strange (Host)
Absolutely. You know, I mean, Louis is for real. If you guys don’t realize that from just listening to this podcast or checking out the other ones, I mean, this is a guy that has a deep history. Him and his family in freedom. And he really you know, I know you could do a lot of things, but I’m glad that you’re, you know, in Tallahassee fighting on behalf of the Second Amendment and Floridians here.
02:09:56:26 – 02:10:16:16
Hank Strange (Host)
So I appreciate it. And, you know, even the same goes to Matt. Lola wanted me, Matt, to get from you like some final words. Obviously, you guys got constitutional Carrie in Georgia, but she wanted to you know, she wanted to get some final words from you on constitutional Carrie. You know, maybe you have some similar advice of what Lewis has given us here.
02:10:16:16 – 02:10:20:04
Hank Strange (Host)
What can we do here in Florida to to make this happen?
02:10:21:01 – 02:10:41:24
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
Vote. Vote early and vote often, as they say in Illinois and Chicago. You got to be involved in the process. Yeah. And you know, what Tip O’Neill used to say is all politics is local. You know, the local stuff is the most important stuff because that’s where your money goes. That’s where the rubber meets the road for you.
02:10:42:06 – 02:10:58:23
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
So, you know, join gun owners you know, find out who your reps are or find out how your reps stand on these issues and then talk to your reps about these issues. All all this information is out there. You’ve just got to educate and over educate yourself on.
02:10:59:07 – 02:11:03:14
Hank Strange (Host)
Yeah, absolutely. Hopefully these guys will come back. I hope they had a fun time. Here.
02:11:04:01 – 02:11:06:19
Announcer
It was great. Yeah, it’s always a great time.
02:11:06:19 – 02:11:08:20
Luis Valdes (GOA Florida)
You know, I love being on your show, man.
02:11:08:25 – 02:11:26:15
Hank Strange (Host)
Awesome. Absolutely. You always helped make it a great time. So here’s what I’m going to do. This is how we do it here. I’m going to run in the end part and we’re going to come back and someone’s going to do words of wisdom. I nominate Matt since he’s he’s new here. Matt, so I hope you got some good words of wisdom for us.
02:11:26:22 – 02:11:46:10
Hank Strange (Host)
Just, you know, keep keep it. Get ready to load it up here. I’m going to run in the end. Big thanks to everyone. I know we’re not doing Thursday and Friday. Friday. I have to. I’m going to be doing something in Tampa. I’ve got some some work I’ve got to get up to over there. So tomorrow I’m going to, you know, take that day off and get prepared for all that stuff.
02:11:46:15 – 02:12:09:25
Hank Strange (Host)
So we’ll see you guys next Monday back here on the show. But big thanks, everyone, for hanging out with us this week. It’s been a great, fun week. With that said, let me enroll in the end then. We’ll be right back here in a second. All right, guys. Thanks for hanging out with us here on the show. We’re going to rip the audio out of this and throw it up on iTunes at Pod Bean and all your favorite places to get your audio podcasts from.
02:12:09:27 – 02:12:27:25
Hank Strange (Host)
You can actually get the audio podcasts from Audible right now. You can find us on there. If you look for the Who Move My Freedom Podcasts on there as well as we’re a part of the Firearms Radio Network. So welcome to all the people that are listening to us through that. Matt Kilgo, words of wisdom, sir.
02:12:28:22 – 02:12:53:03
Matt Kilgo (Lawyer/Author)
All right. So my words of wisdom for you. Come from Theodore Roosevelt, my favorite president. Far better it is to dare mighty things to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much because they live in gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
02:12:53:29 – 02:13:06:07
Hank Strange (Host)
Wow. Nice, nice one. Well-said. Thank you so much, guys. Matt Lewis. Stay right there, guys. We’ll see you next time. We are out of here. Let me make sure I press all the buttons in the appropriate order here.
02:13:07:13 – 02:13:09:08
Announcer
Boom. All right.
02:13:09:08 – 02:13:11:05
Hank Strange (Host)
And stay right. There goes.